This is a defense of Terry's punching Finley in the balls. Otherwise, there would be no point in attempting to spin it to our point of view. And yes, if the same incident happened, only with Parker punching someone, I would expect him to be suspended. I would be pissed off that he did it, especially if he were always blabbing about god being the reason his team wins.
wrong again, sir...
On page 1 of this thread, post number 15, a certain "FromWayDowntown" said the following "It's funny how in Mavsland, the curious calls and the wide FTA disparities in their favor in Round 2 were just part of the game". I refuted this claim of wide FTA disparities (something brought up by a SPURS fan) by posting the actual numbers from the Round 2 series. I compared these to the Finals series, showing that if FTA disparity were an indicator of a team getting "screwed" then by all accounts the Mavs have a legitimate reason to , not the Spurs.
After this, on post #25, noted Spurs fan "Crookshanks" claimed that "it's not the total number of FTA, it's when they occurred!" adding an exclamation point for emphasis. He also said that, in regard to a player being able to win a playoff game at the free throw line "I really didn't see much of that in the Finals." I pointed out the number fouls that the Spurs got away with in crucial situations, and also pointed out how Dwyane Wade won Finals games at the free throw line which negates what that noted Spurs fan had to say. I didn't use any exclamation points for emphasis, but I did use all caps on a few occasions.
My whole point of argument being this: there's no reason to about the officials, but if anyone had a right to, it's Mavs fans and not Spurs fans. Also, Spurs fans are the absolute whiniest face re s I've ever seen, as not only do they outright about officials, but they also do it under the guise of "Mavs fans need to stop their ing!"
so in essense, Spurs fans enjoy ing about the officials while simultaneously ing about the Mavs fans who about officials
and note who my favorite team is. Not the Mavs, mister ChumpDumper (btw what the does that even mean? you into scat with dudes or something?)
can't be garden variety Mav when i root for a team as ty as the Atlanta Hawks.
There's no point in arguing with ChumpDumper. He's just gonna call you a assface or mav or whatever.
there's no reason to about the officials, but if anyone had a right to, it's Mavs fans and not Spurs fans.
There is no reason to about the refs, but the Mavs had a reason to about the refs.
There are plenty of folks who lie about their team.can't be garden variety Mav when i root for a team as ty as the Atlanta Hawks.
Yup, sports don't tend to pander to the real fans, they want money.
like you?
Yeah. I'm also a Mavfan.
good for you
T Mac also said he could put a big hit on an NFL player, and would be a great reciever, and that he was getting hits off of Roger Clemens, so I dont think there is to much merrit to what he says
good point.
No . Ask Tmac about the Mavs-Spurs series. that was rigged too
Spurs fans still mad they got their asses tore up.
And yes, it was rigged. Rigged for the Spurs to win. But they didn't. That's poor .
No. Mav fans still crying on a "Spurs Forum" is poor .
My point was never to cite the entire series as evidence of even officiating. Mavfan es about the disparity the Heat enjoyed in Game 5 of the Finals as if no team in NBA history has ever had to deal with home cooking to that degree. My point was (and for the purposes of this thread has been) that just as the Heat enjoyed a significant advantage in that game and Mav fan feels screwed because of it, Spurs fans have reason to feel the same way about a rather pivotal Game 3 of the West Semis.
You're the one who's tried to inject notions of overall equity in FTA and things like that, presuming that my argument implicated any of that. It didn't.
My point all along was just as the Mavs feel that's there's evidence that they were on the wrong end of some conspiracy to bring a le to Miami, Spurs fans have rather similar evidence to support a similar inference. Mavs fans had no problem telling Spurs fans how they should deal with those facts; but faced with similar facts, some Mavs fans have run around screaming conspiracy and fix. It's patently ridiculous.
It's a fairly natural reaction to seeing Mavs fans faced with oddly similar facts but reaching very, very different conclusions from those facts.
When, after Game 3 of the WCSF, some Spurs fans were up-in-arms about the Mavericks' FTA disparity in that pivotal game and some curiously ticky-tack fouls called only on one end in the late stages of that game, most Mavs fans were telling Spurs fans to STFU.
Curiously, when, after Game 5 of the Finals, some Mavs fans were up-in-arms about the Heat's FTA disparity in that pivotal game and some curiously ticky-tack fould called only on one end in the late stages of that game, most Mavs fans felt justified in complaining and didn't see the coincidental change in perspective brought about by having their ox gored, as it were.
You choose to discount that difference by looking to the totality of each series, but those were the points at which the contentions from both Spurs fans and Mavs fans were at their greatest. In neither cir stance did the argument depend on the course of the series; in each case, it related solely to a particular game and, really, particular portions of that game. In each case, the game happened to be pivotal (the Spurs with a chance to regain HCA and momentum in Game 3; the Mavs with a chance to have a close-out opportunity in Game 6 or face elimination). In each case, the arguments were rooted in similar claims of impropriety. I don't see how one can honestly distinguish those events and reach different conclusions about them.
Frankly, I think complaints about officiating dictating outcomes are weak and utterly ridiculous. I think great teams do overcome even bad officiating and lopsided margins in categories like FTA and fouls called. That's why those teams are great. My only point in engaging in this discussion is to point out the utter, utter duplicity in accepting or making the complaints made by some Mavs fans about Game 5 of the Finals while characterizing the completely similar complaints of some Spurs fans after Game 3 of the WCSF as whining.
Surely you're not reffering to me, good sir, for I have not bestowed upon thy defeat.No. Mav fans still crying on a "Spurs Forum" is poor .
Typical Mavs bandwagon fan bull . When the Mavericks win, it's because they overcame, but when they lose, it's because everybody cheats. And oh by the way Mark Cuban did more for the Mavs than buy everybody a playstation.
Maybe someone should just make a lunch menu list of the same old tired Mavs fan garbage and then the morons that come here can just post a number.
Sure.
So this is all Spurs bandwaggon bull also. "Oh the refs are why we lost to the mavs, not because the players kicked our asses" Talk about bull
"I'm a Mavs fan . . . ."There are plenty of folks who lie about their team.
Never said i wasn't a Mavs fan. I live in Dallas so I will root for the Mavs. I DID say that my favorite team is the Hawks, which they are. Also note in that thread you found that many times I said that the officials were not to blame for the Finals loss. Get it right before making assumptions, dumb .
I made no assumptions. I simply noted your previous assertion, which came to me by happenstance.
Have a nice day.
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