In Case Of Civil War - CUT AND RUN!?!

[RandomGuy]

It's not a retreat, it's an advance in the other direction...

[RandomGuy]

This all got ed up after WWI when we let Britain and France carve up that part of the world.

We should fix it and cut Iraq into three pieces. The only reason the US wouldn't do it is because it would (essentially) give Iran all the Iraqi oil fields in the south.

Doing so would ignite a regional war involving NATO.

As a test, you tell me why.

[Extra Stout]

Saddam was not "axis of evil", it was Iran, Syria, NK.

but we invade Saddam to scare Iran, that worked brilliantly, scaring the out of Iran, show the US military to be unlimited power to control every situation.

The Repugs big picture was ed from the beginning, their competence was totally ed, and now, as a consequence, Iraq is ed.

USA security, is totally unchanged at very best at the cost of 2500+ military, degraded more likely, as the Muslims feel empowered by US failure in Iraq plus Hezbollah resistance to Israel.

In a Shi'a-Sunni civil war, the Shi'a win. A Shi'a-dominated Iraq will be heavily under the influence of Iran. Syria already is closely aligned with Iran. Look at the map and you see a "Shi'a crescent" stretching all the way to Israel.

Suddenly, we're but a few years away from this war getting a lot gloomier and a lot closer to our everyday lives. Once Iran gets the bomb, the force projection of our enemies is on our doorstep. Has anybody else noticed how all of a sudden the U.S. and Europe are working very closely again? How the U.S.'s chief diplomatic ally right now is France?

The Europeans, for all their disgust with Bush, realize that in two years he is gone, but Iran is not, and that the Islamist threat is becoming existential to them.

World War III draws nigh.

You might argue that Bush has led us in this direction, or you might argue that Iraq was a futile attempt to stave it off, but here we are.

[DarkReign]

In a Shi'a-Sunni civil war, the Shi'a win. A Shi'a-dominated Iraq will be heavily under the influence of Iran. Syria already is closely aligned with Iran. Look at the map and you see a "Shi'a crescent" stretching all the way to Israel.

Suddenly, we're but a few years away from this war getting a lot gloomier and a lot closer to our everyday lives. Once Iran gets the bomb, the force projection of our enemies is on our doorstep. Has anybody else noticed how all of a sudden the U.S. and Europe are working very closely again? How the U.S.'s chief diplomatic ally right now is France?

The Europeans, for all their disgust with Bush, realize that in two years he is gone, but Iran is not, and that the Islamist threat is becoming existential to them.

World War III draws nigh.

You might argue that Bush has led us in this direction, or you might argue that Iraq was a futile attempt to stave it off, but here we are.

We dont need no water, let the mother er burn!
Burn mother er, BUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!

At least now we know how its going to go down. At least, I hope it goes down. Because really, who enjoys working? Really?

[Extra Stout]

We dont need no water, let the mother er burn!
Burn mother er, BUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!

At least now we know how its going to go down. At least, I hope it goes down. Because really, who enjoys working? Really?

Being an officer in the Army is still "work."

[RandomGuy]

we're attacking in another direction, americans' civil liberties

Them terrorists cain't take away our freedoms. That's MY job... heh heh.

[ShackO]

IT's not so much a matter of standing up to Turkey(a good ally and a Democratic Muslim Nation)...it's the PKK and the fact that Turkey doesn't want part of Turkey being part of the Kurdish state.

That is sticky....Get rid of the PKK(Something Turky already did once)...PKK are terrorists too...and if the Kurds want any kind of support for their own state they'll just have to crack down on them and let the Turkish Kurds fend for themselves.

Turkey - Not really a head country so therefore I have no support for any separatist movement from them.

Now the Kurdish movements in Syria and Iran is another story entirely...

The Kurdish territory in Iraq is already autonomous.

Sure there is that little prob with the "terrorist" elements but I don't think Turkey is going to go for any deal involving an independent Kurdish state for any reason......

Not a lot has been discussed that I know of regarding some type of deal they can sign off on but hopefully something can be found to appease them if the three state solution becomes an option…

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