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So you're depending on analysts to say that they won't make to the finals so they will?
No, they were set up to fail last year after the regular season they had, this year there will be a lot more "experts" picking Chicago or Cleveland over them, while Detroit will be expected to be a 4-5 seed in the East, and not a real factor for the Eastern Conference Championship. They will play looser and less burdened than this year.
So you're depending on analysts to say that they won't make to the finals so they will?
I think the Pistons still have a good chance in the east. The east is just one Shaq injury (or Shaq not caring as much) from being wide open. As good as Wade is, he still needs Shaq to win that conference. If Shaq & Wade are healthy and playing well, then I don't see anyone beating them though.
No, last year anything less than a le was going to be failure just b/c of they way they played during the regular season, and if you go back and read what I posted earlier, I said I DON'T THINK THE PISOTNS ARE GOING TO GO TO THE NBA FINALS, but that can change depending if any of the teams in the East blow up.
so, am I saying the Pistons are going back to the Finals b/c the other East teams are going to run into problems? NO! All I am saying is that the Pistons still have a dog in the fight and they are from being past their prime.
No I said the Pistons didn't implode, and used the Spurs as an example, and I stated that if the Pistons imploded, then the Spurs must've too, but I don't think either team imploded and had a major meltdown of epic proportions, just that they both ran into problems, with the Pistons running into greater ones at that.
Hmm, for best starting 5 (which is not, of course, the same thing as the best team, or the team I think will win the championship), I think the contenders are the Suns, the Clips, the Mavs, and the Heat.
Comparing...
Nash>Cassell>Terry>J Will. Suns lead
Amare>Brand>Nowitzki>Haslem. Suns lead still, Clips right behind them
Shaq>Kaman>Dampier>Thomas. Heat jump in, Clips now making a strong showing
Wade>just about anyone else, on any team
Marion>Howard>Walker>Maggette
Suns have it in 3 out of 5 spots, Clips have it in 2 out of 5. Heat have it in 2 out of 5 spots. I give it to the Suns for best starting 5.
But, Spurs can still beat all these teams, cause they're the best defensive team and the most experienced, and one of the deepest.
The best starting 5 in the nba are the miami heat,just looking at their starting lineup you can see how deep and talented they are.they have everything to be honest.and the best part is the great pat riley has made them a TEAM.everyone is playing their own parts.but like i said they have everything:
DOMINANT PRESENCE INSIDE:shaq
SLASHERS:flash
CLUTCH:flash
3POINTERS:toine,j-will
MULTIPLE SCORERS:toine,flash
PLAYMAKERS:j-will,flash
REBOUNDING:shaq,haslem,toine and even wade
DEFENSE:haslem(the rest is on the bench)
HUSTLE:haslem,flash
All of you overrate bell too in much..
The guy's not good.
Amen to that!!
Good enough to take Kobe out of his style of play after that game 5 clothesline. Threw him off his game so much that Kobe was a non-factor in the Suns game 7 blowout win.
Let's not forget the clutch 3-pointer he hit in game 5 against the Clippers that enabled the Suns to advance.
No matter how good the Suns look on paper, I just don't think they will win the west. No defense-no win. Dallas didn't win either until they added defense. Spurs are still strong and Clips are making a big run for things. Hornets are interesting to say the least! The west has a lot of options. We'll see who comes out on top. In the east, it could be Miami, but then Pistons may still be okay after Ben's loss. Everyone else that started is still there. I'd say we still stand a decent chance. The other team is Cleveland. If LeBron can put things together, maybe. But I am still not convinced about him. Think Wade is better. JMO.
Prediction: 2007 Western Conference Finals: Mavs vs Spurs
Yeah right...Amare & Brand are better than DirkEvery GM and coach in the NBA would take Dirk over those guys. I would think that they'd take Brand over Amare considering the seriousness of his injury.
Nash>Cassell>Terry>J Will. Suns lead
Amare>Brand>Nowitzki>Haslem. Suns lead still, Clips right behind them
Shaq>Kaman>Dampier>Thomas. Heat jump in, Clips now making a strong showing
Wade>just about anyone else, on any team
Marion>Howard>Walker>Maggette
I don't agree with your rankings. Your players are out of position and some will not start or are not mentioned.
PG: Nash>Cassell>Harris>J Will.
SG: Wade>Terry>Mobley>Bell.
SF:Howard>Diaw>Maggette (Thomas)>Walker
PF:Nowitzki>Brand>Marion>Haslem
C: Amare>Kaman>Shaq>Dampier
These rankings are based on who I would want today. Only one I debated about was flipping Diaw with Howard. Went with Howard only because Diaw has only done it for one year. Debatable for sure.
The way I see it:
1. Miami has the worst starting five, but the best player.
2. Dallas is probably third.
3. Clippers and Suns are close. If Amare is healthy I say Suns, if not I'd go with Clipps.
Only this time, there will be a different outcome.
23 points in the first half. Yep Kobe was a non factor. Lakers were still down 60 to 45 at the half. Kobe's squad was a non factor.....Odom 5 of 14,Parker 4 of 13,Brown 2 of 10. They shot 35% as a team and Kobe shot 50%. He coulda kept shooting and scored 50 and the Lakers still woulda lost the game. Now I like Bell, but can he shut down Kobe, did he shut down Kobe? No
Dissagree on the PF end:
Brand=Dirk>Amare>Haslem
Thats only 2/5 now, tied for the Heat...
And when the Pistons were given the BS le: 'Best Starting Five' it wasn't because any individual was the best at their position remember.
Really it doesn't matter: Pistons won in '04 as much because of their bench as their starters. Best starting 5 is meaningless. Deep teams with good starting 5's win.
I dont know where this guy gets Amare and Brand being better than Dirk. Amare is still raw talent, you take away his explosiveness and he doesnt have much left. He is too one-demensional. I'd say Dirk and Brand are equal, because Dirk's offense is better, but brands defense and rebounding are better.
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you are officially the biggest re on spurstalk...amare and KAMAN!!!!!!!!! in front of shaq....i think you should just get banned right there...im sorry JMO
How do excuse his poor play in the second half of that game? I'll tell you, he quit on his team. Yeah, a point fingers at his teammates when the going gets rough is the kind of player I'd want on my team.23 points in the first half. Yep Kobe was a non factor
Bell sent Kobe a message with that clothesline and got into his head. I'm not idiotic enough to suggest that Bell is a Kobe stopper. That distinction belongs to Ruben Patterson.
Please use the correct nickname when invoking the name of Ruben "The Nanny Raper" Patterson...
Shaq is an old man and a shadow of his former self. If you want to give me Shaq when he was 30 then I would easily take him over Amare and Kaman. Today, I'd much rather have Kaman than Shaq at 34. It's pretty sad when the Mavericks pedestrian center rotation outplay him more than once in the finals. Take off the rose colored glasses heat fan.
starting 5's mean nothing, ask the kings or the pistons. At the start of last season, people were saying the Kings had the best starting 5...but no bench and they struggled. same with pistons, they went as far as they can go on 10 legs...
Threw him off? yeah, but I know Kobe laughed at it and thought of the envy and jealousy Bell had toward him at the point since it wasnt expected.
Kobe wasn't going to win that series and we all knew it, it's not a one man team.. it had nothin to do with Bell...
a clutch 3 pointer...
Everything was fallin for the Suns behind the arc.. it has for a while.. clutch? maybe.. but not as much
if you define these 2 "reasons" key things to not overrate him but consider him a good player.. I call hahaha bs.
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