agreed. several coaches in the league have said that Dirk is one of, if not the most toughest guy to make a defensive game plan for, because of his versatility. he makes his teammates better much the same way Tim Duncan makes his teammates better. opposing defenses are so focused on stopping Duncan, that it allows for easy and open opportunities for guys like Parker and Ginobili.
T-wolves would have been an 8th seed?
LMAO i just noticed the hypocrisy of that statement.
Now how in the does creating matchup problems make the teammates better????
that does not make sense. Put Dirk in the Wolvies instead of KG, and they would suck more than the knicks
Creating matchup problems causes teams to focus more on Dirk which opens things up for everyone else. Dirk does make his teammates better when he's on the court, but he's not the best at this. The perfect example would be Steve Nash.
are you always this ignorant?
its the same way that matchup problems allowed Jordan to make his teammates better. he constantly drew double and triple teams and was able to find players open for easy shots and opportunities, like Steve Kerr and John Paxson. without him drawing those double and triple teams, those guys dont hit game winners in the finals. granted, Dirk is nowhere near Jordan's level, but he does draw a lot more than usual attention from opposing defense, which opens up the offense and allows for open lanes and shots for guys like Jason Terry and Josh Howard.
If Dirk is such a matchup problem, why does KG own a career mark of 4.5 apg to Dirk's 2.5? If Dirk is such a premier rebounder, why is his career average 8.5 and KG's is 11.2? KG had three season where he averged more DEFENSIVE rebounds than Dirk did total boards.
Dirk's edges: FT%*, 3G%*
KG's edges: reb*, ast*, FG%, defense*
* dominant edge
Well, you may dissagree, but "dumbest comment ever" status? Its comments like that that make colloquialisms meaningless...
Mini might have made it to the 8th seed, but I think Dallas would have had the 1st seed in the West, and San Anton wouldn't have even been an issue.
I'll admit KG is better all-around, but I don't think he'd be a better fit in Dallas than Dirk. Then we wouldn't have a go to guy in crunch time, at least Dirk attempts to step up and make the big shot. The mavs would still be worse with KG instead of Dirk.
I dunno about the Mavs losing to the Spurs if they had KG. KG and Tim can guard each other very well, and Tim was the one going into beast mode the whole series.
im not sure what assists and rebounds have to do with matchup problems. and im not sure who you are referring, but i never said anything about Dirk being a premier rebounder. although, when he wants to, he can be a very good rebounder. througout the playoffs, he was constantly crashing the boards, getting lots of key rebounds.
In my mind, it's not even close. I like Dirk and his game alot ... but there's no way I'd ever put him above KG.
Dirk is a very good, very skilled player, but KG's the better player overall.
As far as individual athleticism and talent, I don't think there's any question KG is better than Dirk, with the exception of shooting.
But i'd still rather have Dirk on my TEAM.
Dude dropped a 47 piece last night.
Whenever Germany was in doubt against Angola, Dirk Nowitzki of the Dallas Mavericks seemed to have all the answers.
Nowitzki scored 47 points and grabbed 16 rebounds to lead Germany to a thrilling 108-103 triple-overtime triumph over Angola in Group B at the World Championship.
After its lone loss to Spain on Monday, Germany (4-1) defeated Panama on Wednesday before outlasting Angola (3-2) in the first triple-overtime contest in tournament history. The Germans clinched second place in Group B and Angola placed third.
This was the third contest this year where the teams combined for a tournament-high 211 points, matching United States' victories over Puerto Rico (111-100) and China (121-90).
Nowitzki buried a 3-pointer late in the first overtime and made two free throws to tie the game, 95-95, after the second. He dominated the third extra session, scoring 11 of Germany's 13 points.
"Everything that happens in a game like this is fun," Nowitzki said. "In a long tournament like this, you always need games that push the team. Hopefully, this is one of them."
Nowitzki made 13-of-29 shots from the floor and hit all 17 free throws. His 47 points is the fifth-highest single-game total in tournament history. Jae Hur of Korea scored 62 in 1990.
"What am I going to say that you didn't see out there?" German coach Dirk Bauermann said. "That's compe ive greatness. He gives you your best when you need it most."
With 25 seconds left in the fourth quarter, Nowitzki found Mithat Demirel for a wide open 3-pointer to tie the game, 69-69.
Angola tried to win it in regulation but Milton Barros was called for charging with three seconds left.
Nowitzki took the game into his hands late in the first extra session, burying a 3-pointer from the left wing over Joaquim Gomes with one second remaining to tie the contest, 83-83.
Angola jumped to a 93-89 lead in the second overtime before Nowitzki made a dunk and Demirel hit a pair of free throws with 5.1 seconds left to tie the score. Barros missed a 3-pointer at the buzzer, prolonging the contest.
Nowitzki opened the third OT with a basket from the arc and three free throws with 2:52 left for a 101-95 edge. Olimpio Cipriano and Mingas made two foul shots apiece and Mingas nailed a jumper to trim the deficit to 103-101 with one minute remaining.
However, Nowitzki sealed the win with another 3-pointer and a pair of free throws in the final with 39 seconds
Yeah you homers are right...Dirk is so unclutch....
Good job Dirk......
I'd take Nowitzki. Garnett is a very low-impact player for the numbers he puts up.
I just don't understand how you can view KG as non impact: the 1 time he had decent players around him in his whole career (04) he made scrubbs look like all stars. They were the next comming of the Big Three... the only reasons they didn't advance was because they were comming up against the greatest assembled foursome of all time (argueably) in Laker Uniforms, and Sam-I-Am (one of the 2 decent Timberwolves) was injured (because he is old).
Dirk proved himself as the real deal this past year's playoffs, but his complete lack of D is glaring, and he needs specific players around him to suceed, people to cover his flaws... KG just needs talent around him... plain and simple talent, which McHale has robbed him of his whole career (that and maybe having a half decent coach).
ill take both please
Dirk is the more aggressive offensive player. Garnett is the better all-around player.
To say Garnett is not clutch is utter nonsense. Was nobody watching game 7 of the Wolves-Sacramento series a few years back? KG was dominant in the 4th quarter of that game and was the reason the Wolves advanced. He also won game 3 of that series with a clutch bucket that put them up 3 with under 10 seconds left.
KG has hit buzzer beating and GW shots in the past. In fact, his clutch shooting % is actually higher than Kobe Bryant's. The biggest reason he's not hitting clutch shots now is that everyone and their mother knows the ball is going to Garnett in those situations since there is no other player on that team who is capable of taking it. That, and coach Dwane Casey, did an extremely poor job of diagramming final possession plays for the Wolves in '06. The biggest reason why the Wolves fared so poorly in close games.
However, it has been alarming that he has disappeared in the 4th quarter of several games this past season. I attribute that to the fact that he is much easier to double-triple team which forces him out to the perimeter more than he would like. When Cassell was there in '04, defenses were forced to play a more honest defensive game which left KG with better % shots in the low post.
Simply put, Dirk has always had the better supporting cast. KG hasn't. It's too bad because had Stephon Marbury stayed in Minny, he and KG would have been the next Stockton and Malone. Then, we wouldn't even be having this debate.
the great foursome that bickered and fought and ripped the team apart from the inside and promptly got their asses kicked by a far less talented detroit team? that great foursome?
the Wolves should have murdered the Lakers that year. KG was awful in that series as well.
you're joking, right?
stephon marbury?
KG could have been malone...stephon marbury has neither the intelligence nor the selflessness to be even remotely close to halfway as great as john stockton. Garnett had a far superior point guard to work with when he had Sam Cassell.
the greatest thing to happen to KG was getting rid of the most overrated, most cancerous player in the NBA today.
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