Ah - should these minors be given a wristband or something when they join Spurstalk so that we know not to contribute to their delinquency?
I think if Tony worked some more on his court awareness and the coaching staff worked a little more into taking full advantage of the times he's drving the lane and drawing three guys on him, he could average 1-2 more assists a game.
YES, YES, YES....SOMEONE IS PAYING ATTENTION...ALTHOUGH HE SHOULD GET AT LEAST 2 TO 3 MORE APG.
1. More assists and less turnovers
2. 3 Point Shooting
3. Getting to the FT Line and hitting at least 75%
Slightly improving each of these areas every year would make him a perenial all star player. But I doubt he improves all of these things at once each season. I will settle for a drastic change in #1, and hopefully he improves either #2 or #3.
1. improve court vision and learn where your teammates are at all times
2. learn how to use long passes on the break instead of dribbiling the ball up court
3. learn how to use the bounce pass as a weapon in the half court
4. hit the teammates cutting to the basket from time to time
5. improve jumpshot from 17-20ft (both technique and consistency)
6. improve jumpshot from behind the arc
pass it to fukn ginoboli when he asks for it!!!!
Read the question please before making outlandish arguements that can render one in a state "Moronic Idiocy"
Which Would You Rather See Become Part Of Tony's Game? Dunks? 3 pt Shooting? That is the question.
If 3 pt shooting is part of his game, the expected value is pretty damn good.
Let me break it down for you.
Part of his game = implying that he is good at it.
TP's 3 pt shooting can be deadly. I can remember when in his first couple of years, he kept shooting despite his low 3 pt percentage. It was a joy to see when he was on fire from downtown. I can only imagine what would happen if he could hit that shot with regularity. The spurs assists total would increase because TP is often standing alone because his teammates know that he doesn't have that kind of range
Teams won't change their defense if Tony dunks more, because he is already one of the best finishers in the league.
Teams will have to change their defense if Tony becomes a more consistent 3-point shooter, or even a more consistent midrange shooter. They would have to double-team him because one man alone would not be able to take away both his drive and his jumper.
Double-teaming Tony would mean that other Spurs have more and better opportunities to score over the course of games. Team FG% would improve. The Spurs would score more points over the same number of possessions. This would translate into more wins, and improved odds of winning championships.
Adding dunking to his repertoire does none of this. I prefer the lasting satisfaction of more championships to the fleeting excitement of a dunk now and then, just as I would rather save my money for a nice long vacation than to blow it all on beer and hookers.
i would like to see him sign up to that italian soccer trainin program where they teach you how to flop properly, i just dont like the way he flops after every missed layup.
You'd think, being French and all, that he'd be good at head-butting.
with that big head of his, yes
Zidane is still legend and top 5 on my greatest footballers list
3-pointers.
3 pointers would make him more unguardable than he already is, and the "dunking" addition wouldn't change that factor much, his speed and quickness already does that. Besides, as someone already said, 3 points are better than 2.
I don't think either are realistic though. Tony is a very inconsistent shooter, even though his jumper is getting better, it really imporved last season. But I don't know if he will be able to consistently knock down threes. Then you have the dunking part...we all know Tony is very athletic and that he can dunk, he has before in games...but with his height, the only time he's gonna be able to dunk is very occasionally on fast breaks where there is no defender close to him at all, if he still has enough energy left to do it. I don't think Tony is gonna start posterizing people Lebron or D-Wade style anytime soon.
3-pointers.
I would like to see Parker continue what he is doing and hopefully Ginobili will remember where his brain is.
I wouldn't yawn if it happened. Yeah, it's exciting to see someone from your team dunk it. But not as cool as celebrating a world championship. And we're a lot more likely to be doing that if Tony starts stroking the three consistently than if he can throw it down once a game to make some goober on an internet forum all happy.no ones saying its a priority. it would just be cool to see. hes acting like he would yawn if it happened. like two points is two points is two points. true enough. but i remember people going ape in this forum when tony dunked last time... because its fun to watch!
and it doesnt mean if you look cool, you're right. but i watch the game to be entertained and you are a sad sad man if you dont want to get up off your chair for an exciting game
Kori, yeah the 43% shooting is a little far fetched, but the point was Tony developing a three ball >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunking.
Easy. I'd like to DIRECTLY answer your question but I can't stand that your options are so unimportant that I say NEITHER is important.
#1. A consistant midrange jumper off the pick. His FG% would skyrocket to in 65% if he could present the threat of fighting thru the pick. He'd bullet thru defenses like MrChug at a nightclub runnin thru the drunk es.
#2. Solid freethrow %. Why he gets fouled as consistently as he does is because the gaywad frenchie never makes them pay for it. (NO OFFENSE FRENCH PEOPLE...come to think of it off, grow some balls and learn what having nadz are all about).
#3. See above. GROW SOME CLUTCH. That's right...I said it. The reason all the TP fans were coming to me all season with the "Are you a believer now???" ? And then all owed me about total of $3200 bucks after the "he'll choke inthis series" bets cashed in is why I'm STILL a Bibby>Parker dude. Sorry. Clutch? Bibby. Shot? Bibby. Free throws? Bibby.
Case closed.
SA-Sac Seriesthe "he'll choke inthis series" bets cashed in is why I'm STILL a Bibby>Parker dude. Sorry. Clutch? Bibby. Shot? Bibby. Free throws? Bibby.
TP 22 ppg, 51%FG, 89%FT
Bibby 16ppg, 35%FG, 90%FT
Come again?
Bibby must have forgot to bring his clutch shooting to Round 1.
But yeah, you are right. He beat Parker's ass from the freethrow line -- 90>89.
Mid-range jumper by far. I hate it when he lobs one up and it just clanks off. He has had significant FT% improvement, it doesn't really need much more.
Mr.Chug -- By the way, I'm not disputing that Tony needs to improve his jumpshot by my last two posts. I just think your Bibby-love is unfounded.
I know you are going to point out that you think Tony sucked in the Mavs series, not the Kings series. And as I've said in countless threads, averaging 20 ppg on badly injured thighs and a pulled groin in the Mavs series isn't that bad.
Anyway, I think Tony's freethrow form has improved alot and he's been steady from the line since the A-S break onward. If he gets a consistent mid-range jumpshot (it's improved in form but it's not consistent yet), then he'll be incredible.
I hope Duncan and Manu can stay healthy this year so Tony doesn't have to carry the load and we can see how he develops in regards to court vision and awareness.
Okay, how about this? Tony should work on adding dunking from the 3-pt line to his game. Then everyone agrees.
More than anything Kori, my argument is not a series related frustration. Let this be said. "MRCHUG IS NOT A TP FAN" period. I never have been. My best friend in the world is. He...in my humble opinion is an idiot. Why? Because he's never contributed as a "big 3" player WHEN IT COUNTS the way that anyone "big" has. Manu, TP, and Tim...that's the way you've always heard it. Then it becomes "the big 2" this year...and we lose. I'm not a fan...I'm reapeating myself aren't I??? OOOoops. Sorry. All I can say is that in the Spurs system I've always believed a wiley, court-savvy jumpshooter would outweigh a kick-out type of penetrator easily. The pick-n-roll is an easy game IF YOU CAN SHOOT. Tony can..but only at about a 35 percent clip. Not good enough. Bibby is a master. I'm not making a Kings>Spurs argument...heeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllll nooo. I'm just pissed that every time I'm ready to believe in TP, he fails us cuz he has no balls. Some of us focus...others fold, he folds. Hence, the lack of respect.
id like to see him hit jump shotsnot those i got in a super super streak...
let me see... as long as he's open i hope he hits them...
A tear drop > dunking. A dunk is more blockable than a tear drop. Regardless, I want Tony to have a good mid-range jump shot. The 3 point ability can be added later since the Spurs have good 3 point shooters where Tony can pass during dribble penetration.
Remember, the triple threat position? Adding a reliable jump shot can make Tony an unguardable player: assist, jump shot or a teardrop.
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