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The ideals that make up the fabric of the cons ution are bigger than any one person.
People who say "torture away if it will save American lives" spit on every soldier and civilian that has made the "the last full measure of devotion".
Futhermore, how the would your sorry little ass know what I would do for my principles? Oh yeah, I forgot you know everything. You my friend, are a bag.
The ideals that make up the fabric of the cons ution are bigger than any one person.
People who say "torture away if it will save American lives" spit on every soldier and civilian that has made the "the last full measure of devotion".
Serious question.
Do you truly believe the President -- any president -- should reveal interrogation techniques, the knowledge of which would then be used to train terrorists how to defeat them, just so you can be satisfied we're not torturing terrorists?
It's never anything else according to you.It may be.He's yet to lie.At the very best he has consistently horrible judgment in whom he chooses to listen to.
Meaning no one. It's enough for you.Those who verify such things I'd imagine.Hey, if it's not worth saying where you stole it from....You forgot a glib response to the question, "Really, tell us how [my source has it all wrong]?"
Just once, once can you acknowledge that you are expressing opinion. Finally, my father was a Vietnam vet, I have no problems with any soldiers, I love that Americans are willing to die so I can come post on some random website, it's you that I don't ing like.
Since you prefer torture and therefore the betrayal of decency to American (and by extention) deaths, that says all I need to know.
I am not saying be stupid in this struggle, merely that principles are worthy things, and those principles are stronger than any military force can be.
In saying that torture is the way to win, you give up our greatest weapon this "war", and are playing into the hands of Al Qaeda as surely as if you handed them 5 tons of ammonium nitrate and the keys to a rental truck.
Well, we let hundreds of the detainees go. I'm sure many had "alternative techniques" used on them. Would you not say that cat is probably out of the bag? Seriously?
So seriously, when will you be dying for your principles?
It is my opinion that you have not clue one about what it will take to win against al Qaeda.
Never said torture was the way to win, just said for you guys to quit being pussies. If they torture, eh, who am I to judge?
I served in the Army for four years and made my peace with such a sacrifice.
If I were to die tomorrow in a terrorist attack caused by my country doing the right thing, I would be at peace with that as well.
I forgot, you know exactly how to beat Al Qaeda, that is why you are sitting in a college classroom at the age of 36 just waiting to pounce all over these terrorists and solve the worlds problems.It is my opinion that you have not clue one about what it will take to win against al Qaeda.
You imply that we need torture to prevent further attacks. Preventing attacks=winning, yes?I say torture the away. Turn a blind eye to it as long as terrorists never pull off another attack.
Are YOU willing to die for your country to do the right thing?
I'd say it's more killing the terrorist=winning.
and if you yourself get hurt in the process, well that wouldn't be so bad either.
I would be willing to bet I know more about the world, islam, middle east dynamics than you do.
Honestly, do you think I'm going to say no to this question? Don't be an idiot.
Ok. It doesn't make you any less of a pussy.
Alright I can't help myself, how are you going to prove this to me?
Military force is necessary but not sufficient. Even this incompetant administration has finally come around to that conclusion.
The fact that you think killing will win the "war" merely demonstrates that your outlook and decision-making model is too one-dimensional.
Yes I know, you have to win the hearts of the middle eastern people as well as the rest of the world, blah blah blah.
This wasn't a thread about how to win the war on terror, it was an opinion on torture thread.
RG-Are YOU willing to die for your country to do the right thing? I notice you dodged the question anyways.
As much as you doubt what I say as the truth, I honestly don't think that if someone held a gun to your head, you would have any principles.
Again, that says all that needs saying, however many times you call me a "pussy" for thinking that ideals and morals matter.
Because you know me so well and you know what I'm all about huh? I'm calling you a "pussy" because you are one. You hide behind your little computer and complain and complain but neither you nor your buddy Boutons ever has a solution. I take that back, sometimes you do have a solution but guess what you do after you find said solution? Nothing, you go right back to posting on your website.
Oh, and why would it take someone to hold a gun to my head for me to have or not have any principles? I don't understand.......Oh, you mean that they'd pull the trigger if I didn't have any......I see, well that goes back to that, you know me so well thing doesn't it? You jackass, if I met you on the street tomorrow I could manipulate your trusting little brain into thinking I held the exact same principles as you just as I can manipulate you into thinking a certain way about me on this website. Or maybe I already have met you and you just don't know it..............
Oh, and as for dodging the question, read between the lines Sally, of course I would, I just wanted to make sure you knew you were an idiot.
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