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    It does when you consider the fact that the healthiest diets should include food from all of the food groups.

    Keeping a steady supply of fresh vegetables and fruit is not cheap....
    Buying sufficient quan ies of fish, pastas and grains is not cheap either...
    And what about those meats.... well, for one the ones with less fat and more quality are more expensive, not cheaper. The healthy cheeses are more expensive too. Higher quality products cost more --- what doesn't make sense about that?

    The healthiest diet my father ever practiced had seven meals per day... he ended up losing about 30 pounds on that diet in a span of about 3 months. Guess what though, he was constantly in the kitchen, the grocery store, and it eventually wore him out. IT WAS EXPENSIVE and time consuming.

    Yeah your examples of rice and beans is practical... but I wasn't trying to make peoples' diets heathly at the expense of tastebud bordom.



    Government money is not private money...

    The charge is the same, the funding source is different.

    Most poor people can't pay for their own medical attention without subsidies; middle class people and rich people can -- but they are usually the ones who will have a much more diverse slate of diets to begin with.



    That's a rather inhumane view of quality/span of life vs. medical costs. Whatever...

    Let me help you with your shopping cart:

    Whole, not cut up chicken.
    Flash Frozen Bulk "White" fish
    Bulk Beans
    Bulk Rice
    Carrots (not the pretty, short, peeled ones - the long ugly ones)
    Apples
    Oranges
    Potatoes (the ugly, off-sized ones you have to clean yourself)
    Big ole bag of frozen peas, green beans and lima beans
    Fresh Lettuce

    There, now add it all up, you got several healthy meals there, and didn't spend nothing. Who the said anything about cheese? Health food nuts, and certainly poor people, don't run around pining for Boars Head! And pasta? I never said that was healthy - but a big bag of elbow macaroni don't set ME back all that much. Also diverse doesn't = healthy, either. Check out the Chinese and Japanese diets if you don't believe me. Again, two examples of not expensive, healthy diets.


    You ever go to HEB and watch what the migrant workers buy to eat? Check it out; it's healthy (they can't afford not to be) and cheap (they can't afford); the argument that healthy food is more expensive is simply wrong.

    I don't understand you point about govt. money and private money.

    Regarding the expense of unhealthy diets: you were making an argument about the the public good; I could only assume you were also addressing the cost to the public of masses of fat-assess running around. I was responding to that; as inhumane as the facts of healthcare costs are, they are the facts.

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    I think what's really going on here is that this subject was posted on a Spurstalk forum. Well, the Spurs reside in San Antonio, and if anyone has ever walked the streets anywhere in San Antonio they would see a serious obesity problem. God forbid these people blame it on themselves........................

    I'm just kidding, sort of.

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    And, yet, all those options are less expensive than eating out every day.
    Not at a fast food restaurant it isn't. Now if the envelope includes the whole family then the point is conceded. But for one person, it would be cheaper to go out than eat in.... remember my time costs money too... and cooking takes time.

    It doesn't have to be. And, sounds like he may have lost weight from all the moving around as well.
    He plays soccer three times per week and walks every morning. Exercise was never the issue for his overweight problems... It was his diet -- or lack thereof.
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    Not at a fast food restaurant it isn't. Now if the envelope includes the whole family then the point is conceded. But for one, I



    He plays soccer three times per week and walks every morning. Exercise was never the issue for his overweight problems... It was his diet -- or lack thereof.

    Again, how many people just go and get 1 item off the dollar menu. It's cheaper to eat at home, you know this.

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    Let me help you with your shopping cart:

    Whole, not cut up chicken.
    Flash Frozen Bulk "White" fish
    Bulk Beans
    Bulk Rice
    Carrots (not the pretty, short, peeled ones - the long ugly ones)
    Apples
    Oranges
    Potatoes (the ugly, off-sized ones you have to clean yourself)
    Big ole bag of frozen peas, green beans and lima beans
    Fresh Lettuce

    There, now add it all up, you got several healthy meals there, and didn't spend nothing. Who the said anything about cheese? Health food nuts, and certainly poor people, don't run around pining for Boars Head! And pasta? I never said that was healthy - but a big bag of elbow macaroni don't set ME back all that much. Also diverse doesn't = healthy, either. Check out the Chinese and Japanese diets if you don't believe me. Again, two examples of not expensive, healthy diets.


    You ever go to HEB and watch what the migrant workers buy to eat? Check it out; it's healthy (they can't afford not to be) and cheap (they can't afford); the argument that healthy food is more expensive is simply wrong.

    I don't understand you point about govt. money and private money.

    Regarding the expense of unhealthy diets: you were making an argument about the the public good; I could only assume you were also addressing the cost to the public of masses of fat-assess running around. I was responding to that; as inhumane as the facts of healthcare costs are, they are the facts.
    Then, grow your own herbs in the kitchen window and buy es bulk and voila! you can make a fiesta for your tongue.

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    Then, grow your own herbs in the kitchen window and buy es bulk and voila! you can make a fiesta for your tongue.

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    Not at a fast food restaurant it isn't. Now if the envelope includes the whole family then the point is conceded. But for one, I



    He plays soccer three times per week and walks every morning. Exercise was never the issue for his overweight problems... It was his diet -- or lack thereof.

    That doesn't sound very expensive.

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    Aggie, and you other conservaties, feed your kids LOTS of trans fat, gotta keep working on improving the gene pool. And as soon as they are old enough, sign them up for dubya's military. And eat LOTS of spinach, and lots of chicken, but don't wash it or cook it too much, please. We appreciate your efforts in this area.

    Trans fats, and who knows what other , are in commerciall foods because they are good for the food industry, NOT because they are good for the consumer. Even when that is BAD for the consumer, food industry is chasing your $$$ first, and your health is secondary concern, if it's a concern at all.

    It's a perverse ideology, espoused by perverts, that says food suppliers should be free to put any in food because nobody's forced to that buy from them.
    Damn, you're dumb. Literally. I think you might be the dumbest person I've ever encountered.

    Perverts think it's the government's responsibility to tell people what to eat, drink, do, etc.

    You're a liberal, I'm absolutely amazed that you are FOR the government telling people how to run their lives.

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    How about we require that trans-fat pushers publish pithy warnings on their packaging, a la cigarettes?

    Works for me.

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    Again, how many people just go and get 1 item off the dollar menu. It's cheaper to eat at home, you know this.
    Its cheaper to eat at home but its so much damn easier to hit the drive through.

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