Fantasy Football Arbitrator - Need Help

[Spurminator]

In my opinion, commissioners should only veto trades where there is obvious collusion. They shouldn't be in the practice of deciding on behalf of a team if they are getting screwed in a trade.

Sometimes you have to trade a great player from a position where you have depth in order to improve on a position where you're lacking. Those players paid their entry fees. Maybe someone from another team should have offered up a QB better than Pennington.

I would guess the league wouldn't have a problem with this trade if the two teams' records were reversed.

[PeterBurns]

PB -- if people complain, just throw in Deuce McAllister. He's your fourth RB and behind the three ahead of him, you'd probably never play him. Plus in a 10 man league, there's probably another RB out there worth almost as much as Deuce on the waiver wire.

You are still ripping him the off either way.

We think alike.

I like the league, and I think that because we only start 2 RB's.
I gave up Duece just to help with the ing.

I didn't have to, but damn, Grown men were starting to cry.
The funny thing is nobody is pissed at me, but they are pissed at the owner who made the dumb trade.

[rascal]

And how can you prove collusion?

Trading a top 3 rb pick who is healthy and doing well for an average qb who likely was picked up off waivers is not a fair trade.

A commisssioner should know the value of players and should only have a say to over turn if the league vetoes a fair trade. If the commissioner doesn't know the value of players and lets everything pass what is the point of having a commissioner.

[rascal]

McAllister and Pennington still isn't enough.

[LEONARD]

Who was the QB for the guy that dumped LT prior to getting Pennington?? Also, who are some of the QB's on the waiver wire right now?

McAllister and Pennington still isn't enough.

Nope...

[MajorMike]

Does not matter. You think other NBA owners in the East liked it when Shaq got traded to Miami?

You start with a system. You can't amend the rules mid season.

[LEONARD]

Does not matter. You think other NBA owners in the East liked it when Shaq got traded to Miami?

You start with a system. You can't amend the rules mid season.

Seriously, this is FF we're talking about...not the NBA...

You're about the only dude in this thread that tried to make this out to be a valid trade based on the value of the players...

[PeterBurns]

My entire deal is that the league can't vote to save an owner from his own stupidity.
He intiated the trade, and should have to live with his bad choice.

It's not up to the owners to determine, who he should and shouldn't trade.
He is still happy, because he thinks Pennington will be a stud this year, and he hates how teams are putting 8 in a box to stop LT because Rivers sucks.

Was this a fair trade. Yes. It was fair and legal.
Was this a lopsided trade. Yes. But that's his fault.

[johnsmith]

My entire deal is that the league can't vote to save an owner from his own stupidity.
He intiated the trade, and should have to live with his bad choice.

It's not up to the owners to determine, who he should and shouldn't trade.
He is still happy, because he thinks Pennington will be a stud this year, and he hates how teams are putting 8 in a box to stop LT because Rivers sucks.

Was this a fair trade. Yes. It was fair and legal.
Was this a lopsided trade. Yes. But that's his fault.

Good points.

[LEONARD]

My entire deal is that the league can't vote to save an owner from his own stupidity.
He intiated the trade, and should have to live with his bad choice.

It's not up to the owners to determine, who he should and shouldn't trade.
He is still happy, because he thinks Pennington will be a stud this year, and he hates how teams are putting 8 in a box to stop LT because Rivers sucks.

Was this a fair trade. Yes. It was fair and legal.
Was this a lopsided trade. Yes. But that's his fault.

Stupidity or not, it's completely bogus. If LT was traded away for Pennington in any of my leagues, I don't care what the cir stances are, all would break loose. And I'm not in any $1200 pot leagues...

Putting 8 in the box to stop LT? WTF? Where does he rank in fantasy pts/game (not total since he has had a BYE) in your league??? He's #2 and #3 in my leagues. The only game he was "stopped" was against BALTIMORE, the #1 rush D in the league allowing 63 yds/game! 27 touches for 105 yds and no TD's. That's a bad game for him...

Again, I'm curious to know. Who was his QB prior to this trade??? and which QB's are on the waiver wire right now in your league?

[johnsmith]

Stupidity or not, it's completely bogus. If LT was traded away for Pennington in any of my leagues, I don't care what the cir stances are, all would break loose. And I'm not in any $1200 pot leagues...

Putting 8 in the box to stop LT? WTF? Where does he rank in fantasy pts/game (not total since he has had a BYE) in your league??? He's #2 and #3 in my leagues. The only game he was "stopped" was against BALTIMORE, the #1 rush D in the league allowing 63 yds/game! 27 touches for 105 yds and no TD's. That's a bad game for him...

Again, I'm curious to know. Who was his QB prior to this trade??? and which QB's are on the waiver wire right now in your league?

Good points.

[johngateswhiteley]

Just talked to commish.
Threatened to pull out of the league, and cursed him out.

He is going to let the trade go through.

you're a bag. to call and curse out the commish then threaten to pull out of the league...nice going pussy. a few things:

1. the trade is the WORST trade i have ever seen
2. is the trade your fault...no
3. should you feel bad about the trade...no
4. this is fantasy football, not the real world, when you make a trade like that you everyone else...these are not players that you have any control over, they are in the NFL
5. i am all about big business and small gov't in the real world, but this is FFB
6. i want to play in this league next year, cause these guys are re ed
7. are you a pussy...yes

...congrats, you just won $1200...pussy.

[Spurminator]

Man, I'm glad I'm not in a league with any of you socialist es.

[johngateswhiteley]

Man, I'm glad I'm not in a league with any of you socialist es.

thats not the point.

[Spurminator]

Sure it is.

If I'm able to swing a trade that improves my team because of some dumbass in my league, then I should be able to whether I'm 4-0 or 0-4. I hate leagues where other owners feel like every trade has to be analyzed like a ing corporate merger.

What do you guys do if some idiot makes the wrong pick in a draft? Do you MAKE him take a better player?

[johnsmith]

you're a bag. to call and curse out the commish then threaten to pull out of the league...nice going pussy. a few things:

1. the trade is the WORST trade i have ever seen
2. is the trade your fault...no
3. should you feel bad about the trade...no
4. this is fantasy football, not the real world, when you make a trade like that you everyone else...these are not players that you have any control over, they are in the NFL
5. i am all about big business and small gov't in the real world, but this is FFB
6. i want to play in this league next year, cause these guys are re ed
7. are you a pussy...yes

...congrats, you just won $1200...pussy.

You are going to get a kick out of this one, Peter Burns is friends with Charlie and Chance. Proceed with the Burns bashing.

[Spurminator]

By the way, in my ESPN league LT is #7 overall and Pennington is #15.

[LEONARD]

What do you guys do if some idiot makes the wrong pick in a draft? Do you MAKE him take a better player?

Completely irrelevant comparison...

[johnsmith]

you're a bag. to call and curse out the commish then threaten to pull out of the league...nice going pussy. a few things:

1. the trade is the WORST trade i have ever seen
2. is the trade your fault...no
3. should you feel bad about the trade...no
4. this is fantasy football, not the real world, when you make a trade like that you everyone else...these are not players that you have any control over, they are in the NFL
5. i am all about big business and small gov't in the real world, but this is FFB
6. i want to play in this league next year, cause these guys are re ed
7. are you a pussy...yes

...congrats, you just won $1200...pussy.

Oh, and agreed. This is the final stand I'm taking on this trade. I disagree with it. I've flip-flopped on this several times until JGW just pointed the "I threatened to pull out of the league" point you had made.

[LEONARD]

By the way, in my ESPN league LT is #7 overall and Pennington is #15.

What are they by their position??

Overall means jack $hit...

[Spurminator]

That has nothing to do with this thread...

It's a hypothetical, exaggerated to make a point.

[bigzak25]

as if having the sportschic as your wife wasn't enough...you greedy bas !

[johnsmith]

as if having the sportschic as your wife wasn't enough...you greedy bas !

OVER RATED........her, not your post.

[Spurminator]

What are they by their position??

Overall means jack $hit...

Pennington is #7 and LT is #2.

The point is, if I'm starting a QB that's getting 5 ppg and I'm three deep at RB (and can only start 2), I'm going to trade a RB to get a better QB. I may have to get a slightly inferior player for my RB, but I still upgrade QB substantially.

I'm not saying this trade was good strategy, but you can't always just compare the two players involved in a trade without considering other factors.

[LEONARD]

Pennington is #7 and LT is #2.

The point is, if I'm starting a QB that's getting 5 ppg and I'm three deep at RB (and can only start 2), I'm going to trade a RB to get a better QB. I may have to get a slightly inferior player for my RB, but I still upgrade QB substantially.

I'm not saying this trade was good strategy, but you can't always just compare the two players involved in a trade without considering other factors.

Is that in avg ppg or total? Pennington is around #10 in both of my leagues (avg ppg, ignoring Batch).

Of course you can't just compare the players, but we're talking about a 2 players in different worlds here...

Threadstarter...post the full roster of each team please.