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Bonner looked decent, NBA TV called him th "Red Rocket" Not sure id it will take off here though!
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Bonner looked decent, NBA TV called him th "Red Rocket" Not sure id it will take off here though!
1. Actually, Jacque Vaughn ran the team very well. He even showed an ability to score a little bit to keep the defense honest. Vaughn knew the plays and knew how to get the Spurs into their sets. We'll see if he can do this versus NBA talent, but after watching him this morning I have hope the Spurs can survive when Beno catches a cold or whatever.
2. Don't need to tell me about rebounding. Makes me kinda miss Nazr at times.
3. Oberto is looking nice. For some reason, Argentines play much better in their second season in the NBA. If Oberto can get defensive boards (he's a good offensive rebounder), I like him as a starter. I actually wanted him to start last season.
4. Elson is what he is. A guy who can get up and down the court quickly and stay out of the way. He's not a rebounder or a shot blocker (or much of a shooter for that matter), but he'll give effort. His weakness around the rim offensively makes it seem like Rasho never left ...
5. Looks like you spoke too soon on Bonner. In the fourth, Pop went with the regular four starters and Bonner. That's a lineup that could be pretty deadly. Bonner has been put in pick-and-rolls and with other teams unable to trap it, he should get a lot of looks. He still has a lot ot learn (like the plays and where to be defensively), but he has a chance to help.
6. Melzer looked pretty good. I like his defense and his length. Melzer or Charles Lee hopefully are kept as the 15th man.
All good thoughts. Allow me to follow-on with some idle thoughts from this 2nd preseason game.
It's clear that Jacque Vaughn is an offensive liability. It's a long season, but I believe the backup PG is going to be a position that could be problematic for the Spurs this entire season. Unless somehow Beno gets his "head out of his ass" and decides to become a player.
I share your concern with the potential rebounding problem. The Spurs were terrible on the glass all of last year. There's nothing that leads me to believe their rebounding woes have been resolved. Oberto looks more comfortable, but is he the long-term answer at that slot? Other than Duncan, they don't appear to have another guy who has yet shown the ability to hit the boards consistently.
I'm curious as to how much will the smaller lineup affects Spurs vaunted defensive principles. I'm also curious to see how much will Butler, Bonner, Elson and Vaughn will contribute toward their success this season. Would have like to have seen Butler play in this game.
Finally, I'm hopeful that the Spurs don't have enough lineup versatility to combat the likes of PHX and DAL. To be able to dictate tempo against these teams.
I wrote about Vaughn after his noticeably short stint in the second quarter that resulted in a quick reinsertion of Tony. My thought is that Tony will play way too much if Vaughn is the back-up.
As for Bonner, I know he can shoot some threes in garbage time but I just don't see him getting any real chance-- like Oberto last year-- too many players in front of him and not enough minutes. Surely, you aren't suggesting Bonner will play instead of Horry at crunch time. That does not even take into account Butler-- what's the deal with him today?
A big question to me is who will even suit up for each game. If Beno ever does return, will there be a spot for Vaughn on a 12 man roster. And what about the big boys? Are the Spurs going to start the season with Butler not even in uniform?? Either Butler or Bonner will have to sit- I presume.
On a general game note, I thought that for all the players they lost, that Maccabi Tel Aviv still did some nice things. Remember the talk about Vujcic this summer?
Nevermind, I scrolled over it.
Awesome, Spurs are actually winning in the preseason for once.
Outside of Duncan, Parker, Finley and Ginobili, the Spurs blow.
Vaughn sucks, can't shoot, will be left unguarded so his man can double tim or Manu...
Elson straight up blows, can't rebound, can't play defense, can't do anything but run and dunk... wtf is that?
Bonner, no comment, what a waste of money....
Oberto looks great against euro teams, but in the NBA, he will be used...
Will Smith needs to retire and go back to the theater.
Brent Barry needs to go skateboard or something.
Those other guys have no clue...
Oh well, another 60 win season and get bounced by the real teams.
Start:
Oberto
Duncan
Bruce
Manu
Tony
Constantly switch Barry to PG and SF so Vaughn shares it with him, Manu and Finley share time, Bruce, Brent, and Eric rotate, Bonner plays but put Horry in the 4th or when we we are down by a lot, and Oberto and Elson share the center spot. I don't think Butler is gonna be on the active roster. Trade Udrih for a 1st round pick and send that pick to Europe to develop and be a star.
C Oberto/Elson
PF Duncan/Bonner/Horry
SF Bruce/Eric/Barry
SG Manu/Finley
PG Tony/Vaughn/Barry
SeguSpur=wasted post.
Has Eric Williams played yet?
Yea. I don't remember his stats, but I remember he had a badass 3-point play with a jumpshot off the backboard.
Thanks for all the recaps and observations on the players.
Is there a boxscore available yet? I looked around some but couldn't find one.
Ah Maccabi is not the same than 2 jears ago , so no big deal....
Judging from the part of it I was able to hear- the last eight minutes of the third quarter- it sounded like a great game.
Go boys!
I thought he was injured and in street clothes today.
Gracias.
Did I hear correctly on the radio that Oberto had ten rebounds?
I thought essayspur meant in both games. That's why I said yes. My bad. And Oberto had nine to exact along with 9 points. But that's still shows why he should be our starter.
alamo50 posting from LadyM's crib in Paris:
I was stunned to experience how silent the french crowd was.
Come on, it's their only chance to support the team they love and they don't make noise!
Only when the Coyote played a noise game with them in the 4th quarter they showed that the roof could come down. Just not during the game.
Maybe because it wasn't a close game or because most people there only know Tony?
I tried to get the "GO SPURS GO" chant going, but got some weird looks from the peope seaed around me.
Oh well, it was great to see the men in silver and black again and I can't wait for the srason to start and for me to return to San Antonio for the playoffs.
Nice to finaly meet you Streaky!
I hope your mother will feel better soon.
Au revoir from Paris......
Give BEANS a break....He'll be fine....Why, as Spurs fans, are we in a constant worry mode....We must have nothing better to do....COM'N....The Spurs will be VICTOROUS this year.....Don't ask me why, it's just the way the UNIVERSE works....Ask GOD, I didn't create it, I just live in it...
Man, 1/3 of the crowd were rooting for the ing Macabi!
There are so many people from Israel in Paris and so many at this game (98€ - 144€ for the seat), there was really little people from the Black community!
Which was shocking is that they booed Tim or other players during there fts! wtf!
Alamo, were you wearing a Black Drob jersey, black cap and have a Spurs tatoo on your left arm?
I think I was one row behind u!
Okay... I will post this in both threads because there might be some interest about it. It was a really great game. It was fun seeing the Spurs again after 1999. I have a lot of photos but no webspace, so I probably won't post them. Here some short things.
- Beno looked really pissed and had a chat with some Maccabi Officials before the game
- R.C. Buford was there and talked to Simas Jasaitis after the game, a 6'7 SF I wonder if they are interested in him, he played very well
- Sam Presti was there as well (I have pics of him an R.C.)
- Eva was there, sitting next to Thierry Henry
- Tony played great (the missed dunk was hilarious though), Tim and Manu are not there yet but showed what they are able to do over streches
- Williams did not dress
- Bonner and Vaughn might be valueable to the team; Bonner was effective running the pic and roll and he shoots really well
- It was really nice meeting alamo50
So it was a wonderfull weekend. I wish I could come to SA as well but it is too expensive for me. I hope all who have been there had a nice time as well.
Greetings from Paris.
Streaky
alamo50 posting from LadyM's crib in Paris:
YES OFCOURSE THAT WAS ME ADMIDAVE!!!Alamo, were you wearing a Black Drob jersey, black cap and have a Spurs tatoo on your left arm?
I think I was one row behind u!
Damn, I wish you would have introduced yourself man.....
I saw you first before the game outside but I wasn't sure, you were not exactly the same as on the picture I saw on the other thread!
You were with a few people and I almost shouted ALAMO a few times, finally I convinced myself that you were not the right guy... lol
In the stadium, I was next to the gf of the game who kept shouting "DEFENSE" in french and was kind of annoying... I'm sure you noticed that guy!
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