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    Ummm, yes.

    Both countries, after Bush started making noises started doing more, and more public pushing towards nukes.

    Remember that these guys think that Bush will attack them.

    If you thought some guy was going to whip out a gun and shoot you, would that make you more or less likely to get a gun to defend yourself?

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    Well said on the ridiculous Repug-Democrit bickering Extra Stout. It is a failing of the two-party democratic system that we waste so much time and energy attacking the other side and not solving problems.

    While conceeding that he has valid point, I hope he remembers and concedes that Al Queda and Osama Bin Laden and Saddam, all started before the Clinton Administration.

    But the fact does remain that the Bush Administration, IMO, has not done well in preventing NK to get to the point they are today.
    Paragraph 1 - understatement. The US SUPPORTED Iraq in the war on Iran during the 80s. It then trained and funded Bin Laden against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

    Paragraph 2 - I'll give Bush a break here. What exactly could the US have done to prevent the sequence of events we have witnessed? Not much. The NKs have flip-flopped so many times that it is obvious they were going to build a bomb regardless of anything else. Invasion has never been an option. I think this was inevitable, and that no-one but Kim Jong Il can be blamed for this insanity.

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    There are 191 Countries that make up the United Nations and 188 States that are signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Why then is it the Bush Administrations or Americas responsibility to ensure that rogue Nations don't go Nuclear?
    Because the UN hasn't got any balls to enforce edicts that they issue.

    Much like big companies and governments. When they have an issue that
    they don't want to face, appoint a committee, send the issue there, let it
    die a natural death or talk it to death. NK and Iran remind you of that?

    It is like they say money talks, BS walks. And let me assure you that
    some of the countries that keep stalling on things are making big bucks off
    NK and Iran.

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