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  1. #51
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    Seriously, I hope we get a good ing opponent for whichever bowl we end up in. I want an SEC team or USC personally.

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    Good call. I'm of the opinion that any of the top 1-loss SEC teams (Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, maybe even throw LSU in there) could beat the rest of the top 10 nine times out of ten. But we'll never get to know that.

    You don't think UM or OSU could run with Florida, Tennessee or Auburn?

    Thinking that any of those teams could beat OSU or UM 9x out of 10 is laughable.

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    You don't think UM or OSU could run with Florida, Tennessee or Auburn?

    Thinking that any of those teams could beat OSU or UM 9x out of 10 is laughable.

    ...i am starting to question whether any of these posters even watch the games...or just look at the box scores.

    cause Ohio State is better than EVERY team in the SEC, though i am not sure about Michigan, yet.

    whats also laughable is these tea-sips take on USC and the Aggs. both of which t.u. would lose to...

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    how could i be so stupid? I realize--theres no way UT could beat a team like OSU or even USC this year. ESPECIALLY USC though--they are so good that they don't even have to win the game they are playing to be a better team than their opponent.

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    tOSU>>>UT

    That much has already been decided.

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    You don't think UM or OSU could run with Florida, Tennessee or Auburn?

    Thinking that any of those teams could beat OSU or UM 9x out of 10 is laughable.
    Because Ohio State has beaten UT and Michigan has beaten Notre Dame? WOW.

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Because Ohio State has beaten UT and Michigan has beaten Notre Dame? WOW.

    So that means that they can't beat Florida, Auburn or Tennessee at least half the time?

    Thinking these teams would walk all over the top teams in the Big 10 just tells me you don't watch them play at all.

    They are all very good teams that have flaws. Saying the top of the SEC would beat the top of the Big 10, repeatedly, is still laughable.

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    So that means that they can't beat Florida, Auburn or Tennessee at least half the time?

    Thinking these teams would walk all over the top teams in the Big 10 just tells me you don't watch them play at all.

    They are all very good teams that have flaws. Saying the top of the SEC would beat the top of the Big 10, repeatedly, is still laughable.
    You are a Lions fan, so any opinion you have about the sport of football is laughable.

    I've seen Ohio State roll up on Northern Illinois and Bowling Green... color me unimpressed. The SEC is a SIGNIFICANTLY better conference than the Big 10 or any other conference, and the top of the conference is no exception. Put Ohio State (or any other school) in the SEC and they are looking at a 2 loss season.

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    You are a Lions fan, so any opinion you have about the sport of football is laughable.

    I've seen Ohio State roll up on Northern Illinois and Bowling Green... color me unimpressed. The SEC is a SIGNIFICANTLY better conference than the Big 10 or any other conference, and the top of the conference is no exception. Put Ohio State (or any other school) in the SEC and they are looking at a 2 loss season.

    And that has nothing to do with your point. The SEC has more solid, tough teams than any other conference. Never disputed that. The top teams for all the conferences, usually, are about equal. Look no further than NC games of OSU/Miami, UT/SC, LSU/OU etc. All close games decided in the final minutes.

    So why would the top SEC teams beat the top Big 10 teams 90% of the time? Because you said so?

    As for the Lions reference, I'm also a fan of UM. Does that mean that my opinion on the matter means more than yours since they have won more games than any other 1-A university in the country?

    And neither has any bearing in the matter, IMO. Nice weak dig, though.

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    And that has nothing to do with your point. The SEC has more solid, tough teams than any other conference. Never disputed that. The top teams for all the conferences, usually, are about equal. Look no further than NC games of OSU/Miami, UT/SC, LSU/OU etc. All close games decided in the final minutes.

    So why would the top SEC teams beat the top Big 10 teams 90% of the time? Because you said so?

    As for the Lions reference, I'm also a fan of UM. Does that mean that my opinion on the matter means more than yours since they have won more games than any other 1-A university in the country?

    And neither has any bearing in the matter, IMO. Nice weak dig, though.
    Get a grip little man, I didn't mean that if we took a statistically valid sample which accounts for control variables that the SEC would win exactly 90.00000% of the time. Just that I think the top SEC teams are better than the rest of the top 10. It's my opinion, which is probably why I led my statement with "I'm of the opinion."

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    You are a Lions fan, so any opinion you have about the sport of football is laughable.

    I've seen Ohio State roll up on Northern Illinois and Bowling Green... color me unimpressed. The SEC is a SIGNIFICANTLY better conference than the Big 10 or any other conference, and the top of the conference is no exception. Put Ohio State (or any other school) in the SEC and they are looking at a 2 loss season.
    ...the fact that Ohio State played Northern Illinois and Bowling Green has nothing to do with your argument. you're saying the top SEC teams would beat the top Big 10 teams...and i think NO.

    right now, i think Ohio State trashes Auburn, Florida, LSU, Tennessee, etc. and as i said before i am not yet sold on Michigan, though i think they are very good.

    the only team that can beat Ohio State, imo, is USC b/c of their ability on offense and defense. but if they played right now, b/c of USC's inconsistancy, i'd pick Ohio State by 10-14 points. if USC gets it together i think they win by 3-7 points.

    ironically, USC is winning games the way Ohio State used to...by grinding it out, while Ohio State is putting teams away.

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    All this talk about 'the best conf' is irrelivant. The best teams become the best teams. Everyone joked about how easy the P10 was the last few years and USC still beat all comers except last year.

    The ACC is supposedly the best' conf in basketball every year, with teams having losing records having better RPIs than some 3rd place teams in other confs. However in the past 5 years, the B12 has had more Final Four participants than the ACC.

    I seem to recall that the SEC SOS was not strong enough a couple years ago to get an undefeated team into the BCS game.

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    Texas at #5 is proof-positive that playing actual meaningful opponents early in your season is bad scheduling.

    Because, you know, losing to #1 Ohio State is such a stain on their record.

    /sarcasm

    Absolute bull . I thought the rankings would turn some-what of a blind eye to that loss based on the fact that one game alone has already superceded any matchup since. Texas vs OSU? 2nd or 3rd game of the season?! While everyone else (I mean EVERYONE) were playing patsies, theyre both playing for the National Championship in the 3rd game.

    Whoever lost would have to run the table to even be considered. Rankings suck. Playoff already.

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    Seriously, I hope we get a good ing opponent for whichever bowl we end up in. I want an SEC team or USC personally.

    SEC would provide a mouch more enjoyable game for the viewing public.
    SC wouldn't stand a chance vs UT.

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    Playoff already
    amen.

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    ...the fact that Ohio State played Northern Illinois and Bowling Green has nothing to do with your argument. you're saying the top SEC teams would beat the top Big 10 teams...and i think NO.

    right now, i think Ohio State trashes Auburn, Florida, LSU, Tennessee, etc. and as i said before i am not yet sold on Michigan, though i think they are very good.

    the only team that can beat Ohio State, imo, is USC b/c of their ability on offense and defense. but if they played right now, b/c of USC's inconsistancy, i'd pick Ohio State by 10-14 points. if USC gets it together i think they win by 3-7 points.

    ironically, USC is winning games the way Ohio State used to...by grinding it out, while Ohio State is putting teams away.
    You had a good post going right up until you said USC. Get over it dude, they are overrated big time this year.

  18. #68
    http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/insid...ory?id=2627248

    There are seven undefeated teams remaining in Division I-A, but three have clearly separated themselves from the pack.

    And unlike past years, when three unbeaten teams atop the BCS Standings would have caused much national consternation, this situation holds little potential for controversy. There is such a large gap between the BCS averages of the top three teams and everyone else, that those three -- No. 1 Ohio State, No. 2 USC and No. 3 Michigan -- might as well be alone on an island. Unless two of them lose, there is no chance for anyone else to reach this season's BCS National Championship Game.

    And since the Michigan-Ohio State game on Nov. 18 guarantees that at least one of them will lose, it's nearly impossible for any of the three to finish with a perfect record and not be in the top two of the final BCS Standings. So, at least for now, there's no impending controversy.

    Where the top three rank
    BCS Rank Team Coaches Rank Harris Rank Avg. Computer Rank
    1 Ohio State 1 1 3
    2 USC 2 3 1
    3 Michigan 3 2 2

    West Virginia and Louisville certainly have the right to gripe as long as they're also unbeaten, but when the two polls and six computers are all in agreement about which are the nation's top three teams, not many people care who's complaining.

    The big surprise of the initial 2006 BCS Standings comes in the fourth position, where 6-1 Auburn sits above all other one-loss teams. This is the fourth time that a once-beaten team has debuted in the No. 4 spot, so that much isn't out of the ordinary. What is shocking -- borderline unfathomable -- is that a team which lost at home by 17 points to a lower-ranked opponent just eight days earlier could be resting in the fourth spot of the only national rankings that matter. The Tigers have to consider themselves extremely fortunate to be back within striking distance so soon after being dominated by Arkansas.

    The truth of the matter, however, is that Auburn still needs a lot of help. Barring an incredible meltdown by Ohio State and Michigan, the Tigers need a USC loss to clear their path to the BCS top two. They might also need enough upsets in the Big East to prevent that conference from having an unbeaten team (it currently has three). And perhaps the biggest problem for Auburn right now is that it can't even win the SEC West unless Arkansas loses at least two of its final five conference games. Nevertheless, fourth is still a pretty good place to be in the middle of October.

    LSU, ranked 12th in the initial BCS Standings of 2003, went on to win the national le. A whole lot of teams are conceivably still in this race.

    • There are always fan bases that find disappointment in the initial BCS Standings, and Notre Dame's fans have to be somewhat deflated by what they see. At this time last week, ND was the highest-ranked one-loss team in the mock standings, so Irish supporters must have been excited to see Florida fall from the ranks of the unbeaten on Saturday. But that joy didn't last long. Even with the loss, the Gators stayed ahead of Notre Dame in the BCS Standings, and to make matters worse, the result vaulted Auburn past both of them. Now, Notre Dame sits third in line among the once-beaten teams and doesn't have a ranked team left on its schedule until the season finale at USC. The Irish may have a difficult time working their way into the national le hunt as long as the SEC has the potential for a one-loss champion.

    TOP-12 BCS FINISHERS
    Non-Automatic-Qualifying Conferences
    Year Team Final Rank Initial Rank
    2004 Utah 6th 7th
    2004 Boise State 9th 14th
    2004 Louisville 10th 17th
    2003 Miami (OH) 11th NR
    1999 Marshall 12th 14th
    1998 Tulane 10th 19th

    • Boise State is the only remaining unbeaten team in the non-major conferences, and media all over the country will immediately ordain the Broncos as "possible BCS Busters." Busting the BCS, though, is not what it used to be.

    A new rule went into place this year that allows the champion of a non-automatic-qualifying conference to earn a spot in a BCS game by finishing the season in the top 12 of the BCS Standings. Previously, a team needed a top-six finish to gain automatic entry, and in eight years, only Utah in 2004 was able to make it happen.

    Boise State debuts at No. 15 in the standings this week, which is great news for its chances of crashing the BCS party. Despite an incredibly weak schedule the rest of the way, the Broncos should be able to climb another three spots just by staying undefeated. Many teams ranked ahead of them right now will lose at least once more. A few will lose multiple times. Through this attrition alone, they will rise in the polls as long as they don't have a few close calls against inferior opposition in their conference. The human voters can keep them out of the final top 12, but they'll only do it if the Broncos don't show themselves to be a worthy contender.

    In the previous eight years of the BCS system, there have been 15 teams that have finished the regular season undefeated, and all 15 have been ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings. History says Boise State is sitting in a perfect spot.

    The last unbeaten Division I-A team not to be ranked in the top 12 of the polls at the end of the regular season was Bowling Green in 1985 ... and the Falcons weren't even sniffing the rankings in the middle of October of that year. Boise State is in the top 18 of both polls.

    Brad Edwards is a college football researcher at ESPN. His Road to the BCS appears weekly during the season.

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    LMAO!!!

    * USC beats UNRANKED Washington St. by 6 pts (relying on a last sec INT to seal the victory).

    * USC beats UNRANKED Washington AT HOME by 6 pts (relying on time to run out as the Huskies were on the 15yd line and about ready to score).

    * USC beats UNRANKED ASU AT HOME by 7pts (relying on a 74yd TD drive in the 4Q to pull out the victory).

    Yeah, some powerhouse team you got there.

    BTW, Baylor went to Washington St. and lost by 2, they travel to Austin and lose by 32 (actually, 39 since that last TD shouldn't have counted). USC beats WSU by 6. Wahington travels to Norman and loses by 17. USC ekes by Washington by 6. Texas beats OU by 18.

    Baylor -2 vs. WSU
    Baylor -32 vs. UT
    UT +30 vs. WSU (*)
    USC +6 vs. WSU
    UT +24 vs. USC (*)

    Washington -17 vs. OU
    UT +18 vs. OU
    UT +35 vs. Washington (*)
    USC +6 vs. Washington
    UT +29 vs. USC (*)

    (*) hypothetical based on previous match-ups.

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    LMAO!!!

    * USC beats UNRANKED Washington St. by 6 pts (relying on a last sec INT to seal the victory).

    * USC beats UNRANKED Washington AT HOME by 6 pts (relying on time to run out as the Huskies were on the 15yd line and about ready to score).

    * USC beats UNRANKED ASU AT HOME by 7pts (relying on a 74yd TD drive in the 4Q to pull out the victory).

    Yeah, some powerhouse team you got there.

    BTW, Baylor went to Washington St. and lost by 2, they travel to Austin and lose by 32 (actually, 39 since that last TD shouldn't have counted). USC beats WSU by 6. Wahington travels to Norman and loses by 17. USC ekes by Washington by 6. Texas beats OU by 18.

    Baylor -2 vs. WSU
    Baylor -32 vs. UT
    UT +30 vs. WSU (*)
    USC +6 vs. WSU
    UT +24 vs. USC (*)

    Washington -17 vs. OU
    UT +18 vs. OU
    UT +35 vs. Washington (*)
    USC +6 vs. Washington
    UT +29 vs. USC (*)

    (*) hypothetical based on previous match-ups.

    ...i guess they should not play the games then.

  21. #71
    If USC had beaten WSU by 6pts and Washington and ASU by a good margin (definately more than one TD), people could write-off the WSU game as a fluke. If they beat WSU and Washington by 6pts and beat ASU outright, it looks questionable, but still okay. But to do it THREE times in THREE consecutive games? Sounds more than just a fluke coincidence to me.

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    If USC had beaten WSU by 6pts and Washington and ASU by a good margin (definately more than one TD), people could write-off the WSU game as a fluke. If they beat WSU and Washington by 6pts and beat ASU outright, it looks questionable, but still okay. But to do it THREE times in THREE consecutive games? Sounds more than just a fluke coincidence to me.
    ...so, i guess USC shouldn't bother finishing out the season then?

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