Then what was your point? Enlighten me.
The point is there is next to no negotiations for rookie contracts -- no favors were done for anyone back then except maybe guaranteeing Parker three years when he could've easily fallen to the second round. Nothing that can affect current negotiations either way.
I agree with everything Sequ has written in this thread. (* sigh *)
God, I do need to see a doctor!
Doesn't change the fact that Parker was a bargain...your comment in response to someone making that point seemed to be intended to refute the fact that Parker was a bargain.
I know you like to have your hand held and every little thing explained to you, but I have yet to see any contract inked to "make up" for a bargain rookie deal. Had the Spurs not picked him, he wouldn't have even gotten that -- so what is the point, indeed?
But you are just a half.
You don't know about the clauses in David's contracts stating he had to be in the top 5 salary in the NBA each and every single year in the start of his career?
Now go find somebody to sell your tickets to Siqu.
Doesn't change the fact he was a bargain, nor am I sure I totally agree with you on that point.
Please don't embarrass and discredit yourself further. Salary Cap info is one of the few things on which you are a fairly credible opinion.
Parker was the last pick of the 1st round. He'd more than likely have made more money by now if he had been drafted later. The Spurs didn't do him any financial favors by drafting him last pick of the first round. I do not even have a primitive knowledge of the cap, yet even I know this simple truth.
There are at least three people in San Antonio worth over 800 Million.
Red McCombs
Lowery Mays
Jim Leininger
I believe Leininger already owns part of the team. Lowery needs to step up.
The only reason that Parker's rookie deal is relevant to this discussion is that it indeed highlights the fact that the Spurs have been rather fortunate that his cost was so little over the last 3 seasons, as well as the upcoming one. Of course, one does not expect the Spurs to 'make up' for that to Parker in his next contract. But it does show that the Spurs have had some pretty nice breaks when it comes to paying for the talent on their team, especially the top 3 players. It puts Holt's bellyaching in its proper perspective.
Pay him the ing money.
We are dealing with what 2-4 million.
That's ing nothing in today's world of professional sports for the length of a contract...especially for arguably the #2 man for your franchise.
God damn.
Before I forget, I will say that if Holt Cat is capable of doing this to the second best player on his team (and a guy who wants to stay in SA), well, he's capable of doing it to anyone. Sooner or later some of you will grasp that. If the Spurs don't reach an agreement with Parker I wouldn't be surprised if between now and next summer Parker's image will change from being the enthusiastic young kid with the quick smile into an arrogant little spoiling ungrateful beret wearing American-hating Frenchman.
-MB
"Frenchman" ?
Tony Parker's father is American, so Tony Parker is a U.S. citizen by birth, as 100% American as any xenophobic jingo hick in the USA.
Imprecise to project your own sinister hate and venom into Tony, but it's clearly a precise self-depiction.
(btw, our allies and friends in France and Germany were right that the US should not have started the Iraq war. Just as for VN, a increasing majority of US public is turning slowly and surely against the Iraq war and the manslaughterering criminals who started it. Pity the poor US military suckers and Iraqis dying for absolutely nothing but a pack of shrub lies.)
More than likely < > fact.Parker was the last pick of the 1st round. He'd more than likely have made more money by now if he had been drafted later.
Again, who cares? It's a completely moot point. the rookie contract has no bearing on the current negotiations. If this was Cassell or Nash, there would be an argument, but since all the 1st round picks are governed by the same rules, every 1st rounder worth a crap is underpaid and none of them ever have "makeup" money paid them.
Just pay him what he wants and he'll continue to be a bargain.
First off, go back and read what I wrote dumbass. It's bad enough that I have to wade through your drivel to get to some quality writing in this forum, but if you are going to criticize my viewpoint at least try to be accurate."Frenchman" ?
Tony Parker's father is American, so Tony Parker is a U.S. citizen by birth, as 100% American as any xenophobic jingo hick in the USA.
Secondly, Parker grew up in Paris and plays on the French men's national team. Hence, Frenchman. Pretty ing clear.
Third, I did not say there was anything wrong with him being a Frenchman.
Fourth, get a ing education you little cracksmoker.
Now you are off the deep end.Imprecise to project your own sinister hate and venom into Tony, but it's clearly a precise self-depiction.
That's nice. What does it have to do with the Spurs?(btw, our allies and friends in France and Germany were right that the US should not have started the Iraq war. Just as for VN, a increasing majority of US public is turning slowly and surely against the Iraq war and the manslaughterering criminals who started it. Pity the poor US military suckers and Iraqis dying for absolutely nothing but a pack of shrub lies.)
if they start saying that parker image changes all of a sudden I will go nuts
parker went thru with kidd
he deservers the contract
What happened with the "Off Topic" emoticon? Man, ain' this an appropriate time to use it.
Here you go.What happened with the "Off Topic" emoticon? Man, ain' this an appropriate time to use it.
All I want to say is, PAY PARKER. This is the most ludicrous contract negotiation I have ever paid attention to, save maybe Emmit Smith circa 1993.
I cannot comprehend refusing to pay Parker 68M.
Just want to add, I like Tim Duncan and appreciate his quiet-warrior mentality, but (unless there's more than meets the eye) Tim needs to go public too and insist Holt signs Parker.
must ... suppress ... hate ...
He can insist all he wants, but Holt isn't going to pay Tony $66 million, let along $68 million bucks. They're just going to have to wait it out now until the end of the season and see how much the Spurs can offer him. If he plays well this season, he'll get his money, or something close to what he's asking for (agent).
The Spurs can match any offer, unless someone offers him a boatload of money, the basically you're screwed. Hopefully you can groom Beno into a suitable replacement if it comes down to that. But I'm pretty sure Tony will remain a Spur.
some team will offer tp the max
if nets get rid of kidd they will max tp
Tony is not "ethnic" French, but is still "French" because he has French citizenship and grew up there. Mother is a Blonde Dutch lady(former model) and his father is African American, and he was born in Belgium which is a totally different country.
Myself, I was born in Monterrey, Mexico(19 years ago) of an Irish born mother and a high class Mexican father of Basque/Italian ancestry. Even though I have been here in SA since I was 8 and have grown up here and have recently gotten my nat citizenship, I'm an American citizen and I consider myself mexican american, but I don't think any of you'll consider me "American"? I don't consider myself to be Spanish basque/Italian or Irish(like alot of high class Mexicans that gloat about their euroness and think their better than rest just because their white), I'm 100% Mexican American Vato Loco 4 life
because that's what I know and grew up around with. I grew up in the North Side where there is not a lot of Mex/Americans, but grew in the San Antonio where the Majority of the people are Mex American.
Holt, don't be a tight ass!!!! Please sign Tony! Maybe all 1 million+ citizens of SA should pitch in 4 smakers a piece and raise about 4/5 million $ to pay the difference in Tony 64 million contract? That will send that tight ass bud holt a messege! I'll pitch in $500.
Make yourself at home, Ginobilly.
Thanks man, I will.
Sure. He's not ethnic French but he grew up in France. His nationality is French.Tony is not "ethnic" French, but is still "French" because he has French citizenship and grew up there. Mother is a Blonde Dutch lady(former model) and his father is African American, and he was born in Belgium which is a totally different country.
Yes, you are an American.Myself, I was born in Monterrey, Mexico(19 years ago) of an Irish born mother and a high class Mexican father of Basque/Italian ancestry. Even though I have been here in SA since I was 8 and have grown up here and have recently gotten my nat citizenship, I'm an American citizen and I consider myself mexican american, but I don't think any of you'll consider me "American"?
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