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read my post on why. that is your answer
Only skimmed through the thread, but I agree with most in that the guy was NOT a rat (he was referred to as Costello's "muscle" earlier in the movie, seemed just like it)... I thought it was fairly obvious, both to the audience and Costello, that the Police made up his background to try and help the real insider in Costello's group.
read my post on why. that is your answer
I was under the impression that the guy accidentally (not intentionally) gave Billy the wrong address in a rush. I remember when I was watching the movie, I caught it right away (except I caught that the numbers were wrong, didn't catch the street was wrong as well). But then later as he was dying maybe that is when it came to him that he had given the wrong address and so then he was wondering how Billy found them. By then it was too late though, as he was dying, but he confronted Billy beforehand.
for those of you that think he was a cop as well... then WHAT would be the purpose of him giving Billy the wrong address on purpose? Costigan suspected a rat..so then surely if the guy was really a cop, he'd think that HE was the one Costigan was looking for, therefore why would he suspect anyone else (Billy)? And wouldn't he also be worried/rebelling against giving his information (social security #'s, etc.) to Costigan, just like Billy was?
also i agree with whoever said they wouldn't have TWO cops there at the same time. at least without knowing about each other.. there is no way! can you imagine the risks involved with that? either they have two cops in there that know each other and work together, or they just have one. no way they can have two blinds.
difference is that costigan was with the state police and the other guy was reportedly boston pd... and they made it a point in the movie that nobody was to know of costigan period.
I'd still think they would correlate with each other even if they were different departments.
but marky mark made it a specific point that nobody outside of him and sheen would know the iden y of their under cover guy... i don't get how that doesn't make sense... just because something should be a certain way doesn't men it is in reality.
and by reality i mean a fic ious movie.
which is why I believe there was only ONE inside man. they could have had two cops sure but the other cop would also be protected, no one would know of HIM either except McQueen, MM, Billy, and the Sarge of the Boston PD. of course that's just all what I think but ANYWAY... I still got some unanswered question in my first post on this page ^^^
the state police is an entirely different set of captains, sergeants etc... state and local police don't work together how i think you think they work together. at least not in this movie they don't.
you didn't get it.. nevermind
the state police is an entirely different set of captains, sergeants etc... state and local police don't work together how i think you think they work together. at least not in this movie they don't.
I saw it as they were trying to figure out who the rat was. Either because Jack told them to, or because they took it upon themselves to. He gave him the wrong address, because he suspected Costigan. I also caught the numbers, but not the street name. And I just look at it from a logical standpoint, which may be where I'm going wrong.
If you're in a rush, you call to give somebody an address. Would you realize a few hours later that you said 1221 Marshall, when you meant 1121 Mitc ? If I were to make an accident like that in a hurry, I don't think I'd realize it later.
It seemed like he was trying to set a trap for Costigan, which he fell into - but the other guy didn't have a chance to relay it back to Jack. I figured he didn't relay it back to the other guys because, what's it matter, he's dying. Sort of an honor among thieves, because most of them probably had their own agenda, despite working as a 'team,' anyway.
That makes no sense, honor among thieves? He was a cop and the guy figured that out. I don't think that theives extend the honor to include undercover cops. And he had plenty of time to rat him out to the others - the whole car ride back to the bar.
As far as them trying to set a trap, I seriously doubt that is what was supposed to be happening, seems too stupid and far fetched for a Scorcese movie. I think that he accidently gave him the wrong address, and that is how he figured out he was a cop.
You said it was unrealistic that he realized that he gave him the wrong #, but I don't think that is neccessarily the case. If I remember right he wasn't driving when they made the call to Costigan, he was sitting shotgun, so he may have been under the impression that was the right address when he told him. When they pulled up and went into another address he may have realized his mistake and kept his mouth shut because it would be on him for the mistake, so he covered his own ass.
At that point everything went down pretty fast, they ran into the building and up the stairs and threw Sheen off. After that they hurried downstairs and leaving the building only to be shot by the police waiting outside that were tailing Sheen under Damon's orders. That guy was shot right after coming out of the building, about at the same time that he saw that Costigan had shown up despite getting the bunk address. So my theory is, he never figured out that Costigan was the rat untill he was lying there dying in the bar.
And there is no way that guy was a cop or informant, the police released that story to try and free Costigan from suspiscion of being the cop.
Finally...I just saw this movie last night. It was surpringly good. It got a bit slow at times, but overall I liked the twists and turns and the dialogue was pretty damn funny.
Yes, but do you know the answer to my question?
^I believed it was answered by everyone else.
No, hardly...it is purely conjecture...nobody knows jack .^
BTW, how come you have so much VBookie money?
Cuz I'm vsmart and your not....BTW, how come you have so much VBookie money?
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