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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    I could care less if you made the edit.
    You cared so little you complained about it. Understood.
    Add the fact that he desired citizenship purely for policital purposes.
    He lives here and he wants to vote. You talk like that's a bad thing. You sound like you don't want him to be able to vote.
    Wow. Do I have wait to speak again until your pompous ass gives me permission?
    Yeah, you're oppressed. Please whine about that more.
    It was a reference that focused on politically active actors who have an inflated sense of self-importance simply because they are actors.
    You obviously don't know any actors.

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    You obviously don't know any actors.
    What else can I say in rebuttal to that? You closed all agruments and made me feel inferior at the same time because I don't know any actors.

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    What else can I say in rebuttal to that? You closed all agruments and made me feel inferior at the same time because I don't know any actors.
    If you did, you'd know they all have an inflated sense of self-importance.

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    And, yes -- I edited that post to include your quote.

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    This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend sandman's Avatar
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    btw, earlier this year MJF was still being referred to as a "fellow Canadian" on Cam Neely's web site

    http://www.camneelyfoundation.com/ne...tail.php?id=60

    When Cam Neely was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame last fall, fellow Canadian Michael J. Fox was in the audience with his mom. "Cam's like her third son," Fox told us the other day. "I had to be there. It's kind of like being Italian and your friend makes pope."

    Additionally, there is no reference on his own Foundation web site that he is an American citizen, while there is plenty of reference to his Canadian upbringing.

    I find it interesting that his being an American citizen is seemingly only prevelant when politics are involved.

    NOTE: I personally like MJF. I support every last one of his efforts to bring Parkinson's to the forefront of the nation's attention, even if I do not agree with some of his viewpoints on the best way to find a cure. I am suspect a bit in the way that he is using his celebrity status and citizenship politically, but that is a completely different issue from his fight with Parkinson's.

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    btw, earlier this year MJF was still being referred to as a "fellow Canadian" on Cam Neely's web site
    Are you seriously trying to use that as a talking point? Dude is an American citizen. Who lives in America. It's no secret.

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    I could care less if he is an American or not, I do care that he has Parkensons. I do care that he is doing whatever he needs to get the appropriate health care. What I dont like is that he is using his power as a hollywood superstar to influence my vote. (yes, I know I contradicted myself there)

    I have felt this way about all people with "power", Republican or Democrat.

    I feef for everyone that suffers from disease or physical ailment, trust me I know how it feels to have someone with a handicap. But I just dont like it when people influence me and my decisions.
    Last edited by KEDA; 10-25-2006 at 07:36 PM.

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    I could care less if he is an American or not, I do care that he has Parkensons. I do care that he is doing whatever he needs to get the appropriate health care. What I dont like is that he is using his power as a hollywood superstar to influence my vote. (yes, I know I contradicted myself there)

    I have felt this way about all people with "power", Republican or Democrat.

    I feef for everyone that suffers from disease or physical ailment, trust me I know how it feels to have someone with a handicap. But I just dont like it when people influence me and my decisions.
    So because he happens to be a tv star, he shouldn't lobby for stuff he believes in... for something he suffers from? It's not like he doesn't have any knowledge of the topic.

    So who do you want to influence you? Just people without money/"power"?

    WTF?

    Your responses in this thread today have mystified me. Especially your initial thought, "funny how Michael J Fox looks pretty normal on Boston Legal though."

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    So because he happens to be a tv star, he shouldn't lobby for stuff he believes in... for something he suffers from? It's not like he doesn't have any knowledge of the topic.

    So who do you want to influence you? Just people without money/"power"?

    WTF?

    Your responses in this thread today have mystified me. Especially your initial thought, "funny how Michael J Fox looks pretty normal on Boston Legal though."
    Man Kori has outright owned you in this thread...

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    I could care less if he is an American or not, I do care that he has Parkensons. I do care that he is doing whatever he needs to get the appropriate health care. What I dont like is that he is using his power as a hollywood superstar to influence my vote. (yes, I know I contradicted myself there)

    I have felt this way about all people with "power", Republican or Democrat.

    I feef for everyone that suffers from disease or physical ailment, trust me I know how it feels to have someone with a handicap. But I just dont like it when people influence me and my decisions.
    I was going to answer your post, but I think Kori up there sumed up what I was going to say. How does him being famous undermine what his beliefs are? and if it doesn't why is him lobying for those beliefs wrong? I don't get where you're coming from.

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    After his apology, Limbaugh shifted his ground and renewed his attack on Fox.

    "Now people are telling me they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial," Limbaugh said, according to a transcript on his Web site. "All right then, I stand corrected. . . . So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act."
    That's an apology?

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    So who do you want to influence you? Just people without money/"power"?

    "funny how Michael J Fox looks pretty normal on Boston Legal though."

    I dont like anyone to influence my vote, I like to make my own decisions in the political arena.

    And yes Kori, I am aware that it takes Mr. Fox probably 50 times the effort to do the work of the other actors. I just grow tired of people trying to influence others to vote, let the American public make their own decisions.

    this is why I dont ever visit the political forum.

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    I dont like anyone to influence my vote, I like to make my own decisions in the political arena.

    And yes Kori, I am aware that it takes Mr. Fox probably 50 times the effort to do the work of the other actors. I just grow tired of people trying to influence others to vote, let the American public make their own decisions.

    this is why I dont ever visit the political forum.
    so how exactly do you decide what to vote for? if you don't like people influencing your vote Seriously, wether you like it or not, you're always influenced by someone or something. Why not stem cell researchs potential for curing Parkinsons, and why not M.J Fox, who carries the desease and knows what its like?

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    Just watching the news, reading the newspaper, the internet, political and non-political ads, commercials, billboards, radio, TV, magazine articles and just plain reading influences our lives everyday. Unless you live in a box you are influenced directly or indirectly.

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    I dont like anyone to influence my vote, I like to make my own decisions in the political arena.

    And yes Kori, I am aware that it takes Mr. Fox probably 50 times the effort to do the work of the other actors. I just grow tired of people trying to influence others to vote, let the American public make their own decisions.

    this is why I dont ever visit the political forum.
    I guess I would think you could see it as getting educated on the topic, rather than see it as someone trying to wrongly and bias-ly sway you in a bad direction.

    I just really took offense to your original point of "funny how Michael J Fox looks pretty normal on Boston Legal though." You sound like the same crap as Limbaugh -- insinuating that if MJF looks fine on Boston Legal, then he must be "acting" and faking his disease on the ads. Which is utter bull . It's the other way around, he "acts" on Boston Legal and what you see in the ad is the real effects of a terrible disease.

    I assume you avoid watching any TV regarding anything political, then. So how do you decide who to vote for? Do you vote straight party? Eenie meanie miney mo for proposition and bond issues?

    Because God forbid you actually read or watch the candidates or other people in "power" express their viewpoints. We wouldn't want anyone swaying you.

    Seriously, how do you decide if you don't want to listen or watch?

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    Video of Limbaugh in action

    The above link is a segment from Keith Olbermann's Countdown It's a little over seven minutes long but the first couple of minutes you get to see Rush saying his piece via the "Ditto Cam".

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    Looks like el Rushbo has been hittin' the buffets again.

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    I listen to and read who I trust.

    I watch the political debates when I can, I see how each candidate reacts to given issues. I try to balance news form the media outlets as most of them are biased one way or the other. I take each group (CNN, FOX, NBC, CBS is so bad I dont even consider them) in small doses, but usually when the commercials and other political ads come on the air, I change the channel or I mute the TV.

    I read the E-N for local info, but living in Comal County, Im excluded form 99% of San Antonio issues, so they arent a real help for me.

    I should have taken advice from someone that posts here and stayed out of this stuff, everyone gets all pissy when you try to say whats on your mind, seesh.

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    I should have taken advice from someone that posts here and stayed out of this stuff, everyone gets all pissy when you try to say whats on your mind, seesh.
    No one is pissy. Just surprised that you are KEDAbaugh that's all.

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    I used to listen to Rush, but I stopped after the McNabb incident, that was it for me.

    the only radio I listen to anymore is Sean Hannidy, and I find him a tad over the top sometimes.

    as far as news media goes, its a one strike and your out policy for me, if you go all stupid in whatever form, I will turn it off and not turn it on again.

    although whoever does that moron trivia stuff on WOAI on Friday mornings is pretty damn funny.

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    am I a neo-con yet?

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    It is what it is. If that is the way you feel it is the way you feel. I know many don't agree with my point of view and that is okay. I don't agree with what many post in here but that doesn't change anything.
    Props to you for telling it like it is from your point of view.
    I respect the truth about one's point of view rather than silence to avoid confrontation or a disagreement.

    insHannity is way to the right but I listen so that I can make a fair and balanced decision.

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    insHannity is way to the right but I listen so that I can make a fair and balanced decision.

    yeah hes worse than I am, but I find him entertaining, thats about it. And he has cool interviews as well.

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    yeah hes worse than I am, but I find him entertaining, thats about it. And he has cool interviews as well.
    I agree. He is very good at what he does but I wish Allan would grow a pair.

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    My educated guess is ... Rush Limbaugh is presently engaged in contract negotiations.

    Keda, you really need to step back and realize that, underneath it all, "hollywood" and talk radio are one in the same.

    Sean Hannity would trash you Mom for $20.

    Recognize!

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