President Pelosi (how does that sound)

[RandomGuy]

During WW II every telegraph message was intercepted and read, without a warrant. This was well known in certain circles including the press, but they did not publish it, because we were at war.

So don't talk as if this is something new and different, and we're "tossing away our freedoms".

It has never been necessary to get a warrant for everything. There are subtle legal points involved. No one wants to hear the details, they just want to scream "Warrantless Wiretapping!" It's simply become a political spin-cycle headline-grabber.

The "liberals" (or at least some of them) are EXACTLY trying to stop the Bush administration from "spying". They want the process to be slowed down, they want the process to be stopped depending on which judge happens to review it. They fundamentally believe we are waging some kind of imperialist occupation and they want it stopped, by any means necessary. This is just one of the means. Or, they fundamentally believe that it's more important for them to be in power than to tell the complete truth, thus the cynical news spins.

We aren't at war. Why should we have to give up liberty for temporary security?

[RandomGuy]

We aren't at war?

Name the country that we have declared war on.

[Yonivore]

Speaking of Pelosi, where the has she been? No media appearances since October 22...isn't she the Speaker wannabe for the Democrats?

Probably afraid she'll speak the truth like John Kerry.

[boutons_]

John Kerry spoke the truth:

dubya is an uneducated, failed-at-real-life dumb "stuck in Iraq" without a clue how win or how to get out and why his puppet-meisters wanted him to start war.