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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Getting C's in Harvard is hardly making the most out of a very expensive, legacy-based edumacation, but I think the point is that Dubya went to expensive Prep Schools, didn't study, and made the wrong choices when it came to Iraq.
    Well, considering his grades were slightly better than Kerry's at Yale and that Kerry couldn't even get into Harvard Business, I'd say that makes the "pun" even stranger. Now, you're telling me that he told the students he'd of probably ed things up worse than Bush if he'd been elected in '04.

    FoxNews is announcing that Kerry is cancelling all appearances tomorrow. Probably to get his message nuanced enough for Nbadan to articulate it properly, I'm sure.

    Then, there's this...

    Iowa candidate asks Kerry to cancel campaign visit

    Even some Democrats aren't as gullible as you Dan.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    It is obvious kerry is a sellout i said.
    Or, maybe he's just an elitist snob Democrat who can't help himself from saying what's on his mind.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Even some Democrats aren't as gullible as you Dan.
    Why? Because I don't fall for the wing-nut noise machine? Why isn't Dubya campaigning in contested states for Congress? Same reason some Congressional candidates don't want to appear with Kerry right now.

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    Why? Because I don't fall for the wing-nut noise machine? Why isn't Dubya campaigning in contested states for Congress? Same reason some Congressional candidates don't want to appear with Kerry right now.
    No, because you believe his excuse. Besides, Bush isn't bashing the troops...

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    What Kerry said:


    What Kerry ment to say:



    See kids, blow a pun, be persecuted by the right.
    For as much as you and croutons have ragged on Bush since before he even got into office about his comments and his 'inability' to put together a coherent sentence, it's pretty ing ironic how you're trying to just blow this one off by Kerry.

    Kerry obviously meant what he said. His response hasn't been to clarify what he meant to say, it's been to attack everyone criticizing him as not being worthy enough to criticize him because they didn't fight.

    Wonder what he has to say about McCain . After all, McCain was a POW and stuck in the Hanoi Hilton while Kerry was back in D.C. calling the guy a rapist and a murderer...

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    Well, considering his grades were slightly better than Kerry's at Yale and that Kerry couldn't even get into Harvard Business, I'd say that makes the "pun" even stranger. Now, you're telling me that he told the students he'd of probably ed things up worse than Bush if he'd been elected in '04.
    Blah, Kerry was the chosen DLC candidate, the last ever I hope. It's clear now that the Dean-backed DNC runs the Demo Party and we'll get candidates who have a chance and will have the full support of Demo cons uents.

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    Blah, Kerry was the chosen DLC candidate, the last ever I hope. It's clear now that the Dean-backed DNC runs the Demo Party and we'll get candidates who have a chance and will have the full support of Demo cons uents.
    Hey, you're the one defending his remarks, not me. Now, you're bailing on his failed presidential bid?

    Tell me, Dan; did you vote for Kerry before you voted against him?

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    meanwhile elitist snob republicans are non existent, right?

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    meanwhile elitist snob republicans are non existent, right?
    I don't hear any calling our troops uneducated morons that can't learn their way out of serving in Iraq.

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    No, because you believe his excuse. Besides, Bush isn't bashing the troops...
    Yeah, according to the latest Polls, the Demos have an almost Diebold-proof, record lead over their Republican Congressional counterparts. Another Republican in a formerly close contest, Rep. John Sweeney, is going to be accused of abusing his former spouse in a article in the NY Daily News tomarrow.

    Perfect time for Kerry to do his part by underming the troops.


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    Another Republican in a formerly close contest, Rep. John Sweeney, is going to be accused of abusing his former spouse in a article in the NY Daily News tomarrow.
    God forbid the Democrats actually run on some policy initiative.

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    As stupid as this remark was, I'm not sure it's bad enough to turn the tide again.

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    well, let's face it, no 3.0 or more GPA students are running to enlist in the army
    Link please.

    p.s. You won't find one.

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    As stupid as this remark was, I'm not sure it's bad enough to turn the tide again.
    Perhaps not, but the Dems don't fare well in voting from the military, that percentage of them that vote Dem just got smaller.
    How many millions of voters have served in the military? Definitely could have an impact in tight races.

    The Dems best course of action would be for Dean and those running for office to disassociate themselves from Kerry's remarks by harshly criticizing him and offering a respectful apology to those that have served in the Military.
    I imagine they'll do just that.


    Trying to fudge your way out of those imbecilic remarks (nbadan) would be the least effective course of action. Perhaps even counterproductive.

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    "some policy initiative."

    The Repugs policy initiative: be super-scared, you are not safe.

    (The same Repugs who did nothing as OBL hit the WTC, the same Repugs who started a phony war and put the US and the world at much greater terrorist risk)

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    "some policy initiative."

    The Repugs policy initiative: be super-scared, you are not safe.

    (The same Repugs who did nothing as OBL hit the WTC, the same Repugs who started a phony war and put the US and the world at much greater terrorist risk)
    Finding fault with the Rep policy pretty much sums up the Dems initiative.

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    Let the distancing from Kerry begin!

    Iowa candidate asks Kerry to cancel campaign visit


    DES MOINES, Iowa A Democratic Congressional candidate from Iowa is canceling a campaign event later this week with Senator John Kerry.

    Brucy Braley says Kerry's recent comments about the Iraq war were inappropriate.

    Braley is running against Republican Mike Whalen in Iowa's First District congressional race. It's a contest considered to be one of the most compe ive House races in the country.

    Braley's decision to distance himself from Kerry came as a furor grew from comments Kerry made about the Iraq War during a campaign stop in California on Monday.

    Kerry said if you make the most of your education, you "can do well." The Democrat went on to say that is you don't, (quote) "you get stuck in Iraq."

    The remarks prompted sharp criticism from some Republicans, including President Bush and Arizona Senator John McCain.

    Kerry refused to apologize.

    http://www.eyewitnessnewstv.com/Glob...16595&nav=F2DO

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    It was a bad try at a bad joke with a bad punchline with a bad outcome but it was clearly aimed at the administration and not the members of our military.
    I was glad to see Kerry defend his remarks and not want to put up with Rush who has never served or Cheney who has never served.
    He should have had more back bone during his campaign.

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    God forbid the Democrats actually run on some policy initiative.
    God forbids Bush from doing the right thing.

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    Here's hopin' they won't. He epitomizes all we'd get with a Democratic Congress or administration.

    Let's not let them forget this was their best and brightest for the 2004 Presidential election.
    I'll take a proud vietnam vet over a man who had Daddy get him into the National Guard.
    You all are pathetic. This is the kind of that pisses me off.

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    No, because you believe his excuse. Besides, Bush isn't bashing the troops...
    No, but he's taking cheap shots at Kerry, although Kerry gave him a great opening, to deflect from the real issues in Iraq.

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    And I know many who feel that joining the military is not the best direction to take in life. If it weren't that way many, many more members of congress would have children in the military.

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    Is Dubya smarter than you? Could you take him at Chess? Risk? Jeopardy?

    He had a higher GPA at Yale than Kerry. So even if Kerry had gotten his quote "right", he would have slammed himself.

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    I'll take a proud vietnam vet...

    Riiight!

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    I'll take a proud vietnam vet over a man who had Daddy get him into the National Guard.
    You all are pathetic. This is the kind of that pisses me off.

    Proud Vietnam vet Go take a look at his career and comments regarding his career shortly after Vietnam. Oh, and note that he was dishonerably discharged until Jimmy Carter was President and granted him the honorable discharge.

    Yeah, real proud.

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