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Yes, and when we fall short, the thing to do is to confess the sin, not hide it.
Hiding it makes it worse.
You're really making me sad here.
The point of morality is that your actual behavior reflects your beliefs as much as possible. The point of morality is not that you can create an external appearance that reflects your beliefs.
True, except that sometimes we lie, hold grudges, get impatient, display greediness, lust, anger etc... What I believe Yoni is trying to say is that we don't always measure up to what we know is right - precisely because as humans we are imperfect... Saying that we do measure up would be an outright lie. We're all sinners.
What a pity and what a disgrace.
Yes, and when we fall short, the thing to do is to confess the sin, not hide it.
Hiding it makes it worse.
So, he didn't inhale...or swallow?He admitted to buying crystal meth from the gay escort, but claims he didn't use it. Also denies having sex with the escort -- just "massages"
Every time I hear that "first stone" quote I laugh, thinking of Life of Brian, when someone bellowed that out at a stoning, causing all of a two second pause, followed by a fusillade of huge rocks at the offender.
So, why the fanaticism about GOP politics by the Christian right? Politicians are most certainly "men", and horribly flawed ones at that.
Shame is a strong motivator to remain silent...even for the strongest among us.
Think of King David and Bathsheeba. It was a few years before he 'fessed up, admitted his sin, and repented. And, still, he paid a heavy price.
Gee, I don't remember any of this newfound Yoni-compassion for sinners when Clinton was taking his fall...
Well, if this guy had any control over my life...you know, like a President, I'd probably feel differently. But, as it stands he's a Pastor of somebody else's church.
And, if he were my pastor, I'd want him to do exactly what he did...resign. Which is exactly what I wanted Clinton to do.
Your point?
Welcome to the NeoCon universe. Lovely, isn't it?
You're really making me sad here.
The point of morality is that your actual behavior reflects your beliefs as much as possible. The point of morality is not that you can create an external appearance that reflects your beliefs.
Do people not get the extreme irony here- we are not simply talking about a minister who might be performing gay acts; we are talking about the head of a nationwide Evangelical organization who has publicly been one of the biggest opponents of sexuality and gay marriage while he himself is engaging in the behavior. It is hypocrisy at its most extreme and a lesson for all who hold themselves up just a little too high.
No more ironic than the chief executive of a nation attempting to deny a lowly citizen their due process rights by lying under oath.
Look, they're all just single human beings. This guy's been busted and the right thing is happening. Clinton should have been as ashamed.
Yoni can't go a day without the Clinton hijack attempt.
Yoni- You must be friends with another poster who does not answer questions or deal with subjects but tries instead to make the other person defensive by turning it back on them and changing the subject. Last I checked, I was talking about Haggard.
And Haggard is exactly what to me?
Wow! You really do pay too much attention to my posting habits.
How could one not notice? You do it every other thread.
The subject of THIS thread.
And I was merely trying to bring the topic into the political realm. You're welcome.The subject of THIS thread.
fixed to reflect what actually happened.
EDIT: oops! almost forgot...[/SARCASM]
It was already political given his public stance on gay marriage. I know you are too stupid to realize that. You're welcome.
Yeah, an actual politician. Of course, we could change it to Kleagle Byrd or Manslaughterer Kennedy or Crooked Jefferson or some other Democratic disgrace, if you like.
Shotgun hijack attempt. Why not make it about Kaye West or Brangela or Dennis Miller, star er?
I see. So, everyone who opposes gay marriage and then goes off and cavorts with a gay hooker is political fodder?
You really should seek help.
If he is a public figure leads an organization that is politically active, absolutely
Okie dokie, then have at him. I hope it helps your blood pressure.
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