I'm in.
He really showed emotion. Glad he didn't get called for a T![]()
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I'm glad for Fabricio, he is a REALLY GREAT person. A family guy. Very funny.
I have one anecdote to tell about him.
He once told a journalist that he always tries to reserve his plain seat as close to Manu's as possible.
When the journalist asked im why is that, adding if it was because he was a fan of him, he answered :
"No, not because I'm a fan, it's just because Manu is a lucky man and if the plane crashes, he will be one of the survivor for sure and I want to be the other one!"
I'm a big, big fan of Oberto, love the guy, especially the hair, awesome look for him. I really hope he continues to produce like this, with Elson off the bench as the sixth man? Yeah, I know Barry/Finley are the swing spot sixth man, seemingly rotating between if they are hot/cold or not, but having a guy like Elson off the bench will be as impacting as Ginobili in 02-03, he has a lot of motivation and a real fire in him to stop the plagues from last year such as rebounding and interior defense.
So that gives two center dimensions, Oberto is a no frills, basic player, with great passing and knowledge of the game, while Elson is a brute who will slam it down, swat shots, it will be an amazing 1-2 punch, and even greater once Butler shines.
I had doubts about this team this year but really, they are built to last. With this core I can see them having chances to win for the next 2 years if not more, and more after that due to the production of Butler and poise of Parker. Parker in 3 years could be a candidate for top NBA player!
wow... a lot of people in here are going to bum hard when Oberto returns to his usual self during the next couple of games. If you think Oberto has it in him to produce like tonight on a regular basis... pff.
Personally, I'll be glad if Oberto averages enough rebounds to get us out of this rebounding slump we've been in since the season started. This game doesn't really show much, other than what baseline bum was saying about the Suns not really bothering to guard him well.
Having said that no 22/10 on 11 for 11 night should go without its props!![]()
No thanks. It was just one game.
its unfair to expect a perfect game like this from oberto everyday. his averages for the season are looking decent and they will probably continue to improve, but hes not going to average a double double.
but its also weak to say that anybody could have had that game. if he was open, its because he got himself open and knew how to use the space tim makes. He hit the jumper when he had to and he played decent team D.
the guys saying they could play center against the suns probably dont have perfect shooting nights playing horse in their driveway
oberto >> elson (seriously)
Nazr, too, tied career high vs. Phoenix last year. He had 30, i think.
Don't get me wrong, I like Fab waaaaay better than brick-fisted Nazr. I just don't expect double doubles from him against Houston, Dallas, Claeveland, etc..
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Sorry -- Next time I will read the whole thread.
I seem to recall most references about Oberto coming on board and being the starting center were more an issue of Holt's cheapness as opposed to Oberto's skills.
Two points about Oberto.
First I am impressed in how quick he is to get that ball back up on offensive rebounds or passes to him. No messing around with faking......just up and in....quickly.
Secondly....he doesn't buy into pump fakes....leave his feet and get in trouble....He stays put.
I think he is comfortable in the system now, and we are going to see some good things from him night in and night out. He seems solid on defense, and somehow seems to be able to get to the right spot at the right time, almost every play.
I believe Oberto and Elson are going to give us much more than we ever got out of Nazr and Rasho last year.
The way ShoogarBear recalls it, timvp was predicting that Oberto would be starting because then Peter Holt would have an easy excuse for both getting rid of Rasho and not re-signing Nazr.
ShoogarBear thinks that timvp's point was that Holt Cat and Pop would go so far as to play lesser talent in order to save Money.
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Duncan's double-teamed, and Oberto's getting open shots. Nice rebounding too
After I spent all that time on my reply.
Yeah, but you did all the fancy bold text, emoticons and re-referenced timvp on the call out. I think it drove the point home even harder.
I need to take Effective Post Formatting 101(Damn! Improper use of emoticon.)
Nice Job FABS keep up the good WORK!!!!!!!!
If the guy is smart enough and has enough court sense to get open for uncontested layups when TD is double teamed, more power to him.
That was an art that Rasho never mastered. He'd be open but couldn't react and put the ball into the hoop with a quick move to the basket. As for Nazr, he'd be open but either fumbled the pass or triple-pumped until the defense could recover.
The important thing this shows is that teams will now have to pay for doubling on TD. That will make TD even better this year.
TD and Oberto will love playing pitch, catch and score with each other.![]()
Yeah, if those two can continue the pitch and catch and up and in on double teams, Tim is going to start having a much easier time on the court.The important thing this shows is that teams will now have to pay for doubling on TD. That will make TD even better this year.
Also if Tony stays consistent on threes, that will change the way teams have to guard him also, which will also take some pressure off Tim.
So far, I'm liking the way this team is shaping up.
Good game for El Fabricio! He has to do this again or i'm taking my money back from the collection plate.
Actually that was Pepe Sanchez who said that.
I've always liked Oberto since I first saw him play with the Argentina NT back in 1998. On the international stage, he's always been a great defender, passer and a pretty decent rebounder.
It's true that I thought the long range financial plans would play a part in Oberto starting, but I always liked him as a basketball player. He sucked last year (and in the first couple games this year) and I said as much. But Andres Nocioni was pretty horrible in his first year and he turned into a force in his second season. Argentines are weird like that.
I won't take full credit calling Oberto starting but I know I've had his back more than even most Argentines on this board.
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