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malik rose is talkin bs, his just protectin his job
and todays players wouldnt even last in the early 90s basketball with the physical play....so todays league is filled with pansys in a tanks body.....
Malik already commented...he said when he played for the Spurs he didn't think Bruce did stuff intentionally...but now, he's not so sure. IOW....Bruce wasn't dirty when Malik was a Spur, but now that he's a Knick, he is.
Kinda like Finley had all sorts of problems with Bruce when he was a Mav...but now that he's a Spur...no problems at all. Kinda like Ray Allen and Bruce were friends once upon a time.
malik rose is talkin bs, his just protectin his job
and todays players wouldnt even last in the early 90s basketball with the physical play....so todays league is filled with pansys in a tanks body.....
I would rather broke Isiah`s foot.
im gettin alot of for defending bowen on realgm.com these clowns who dont know whats intentional and whats not. you dont see bruce laughin and after he takes out a player, it only looks intentional when alot of ppl talks about it givin it more attention then it already needs.
this is the very first time that I really pity Bowen who I know is a GOOD DEFENDER and a GOOD PERSON who only play strong defense for his team to win. I'm tired of those players and coaches and Cuban for implying he's doing those things intentionally. Why I didn't hear Kobe or James saying those things about Bruce? What a sore LOSER they are.
I live in Mahattan and I was watching the East Coast feed. They replayed the Bowen - Francis play over and over and Bowen did not come out well. Then, he does something similar to Crawford.
It is easy to see why fans from other teams almost unanimously call out Bowen.
And by the way, I love Bruce.
Is NBA's games becoming battles and NBA's le a war to win?
Wining a game is different of defeating the enemy ... I know players and coach are under a lot of preasure, but those yields are tipically from a fan ...
come here your little ...
Are they?
im a Mavs fan but i agree to this and its true. Bruce just tries to help his team win however he can. he never breaks the rules like you said the guys that whine about him are always the ones that arent around in June, but Kobe, Lebron, and people like me, respect his commmitment to defense
"murder"????
"kick his ass"????
"break his ing feet"?
sounds like Isaiah has issues beyond the court
Actually, I thought of that time, too, when Pop yelled at Artest (I couldn't remember who it was), but Pop wasn't (as far as we know) threatening him with physical harm. To do so in front of everybody is just dumb.
Well, last night I finally saw the Francis replay, and honestly (really) it wasn't intentional. Francis shot, Bruce turned around and set one foot back and to the side to box out. However, considering the trouble that's stirring, he probably should adjust his technique a little bit...keep his feet in closer. Now, if he jumps at the shooter, then this really isn't a problem since they are both in the air. If he's not going to contest the shot, then he has to box out, but not as much with his feet...maybe use his arms more. Besides, how many shooters in this league go after their own misses...most just pose and look at the shot.
"to box out"
There's no need to box out beyond the 3G arc. It's not even useful since there is so much room to run around the boxer. And how many NBA 3G shooters race in to rebound their own shot?
I fear that the next time this happens with Bruce, all is going to break out. Some player is going to go after him and it's not going to be pretty.
I also know that is someone did this to Manu and he got hurt, Spurs fans would want more than his foot broken.
And the fact that Bruce is a nice guy in the community does not make him immune to certain bahaviors on the court.
It's all about the make-up sex...
Maybe after he knocked David out.
I want to go to bed now; are you coming?
I have to agree. Spurs fans know Bruce Bowen since they follow the Spurs. They know how he is outside of the court and all the good things he does for the community and his teammates, so that forces them to look at these situations from a different perspective, not believing he's doing it out of bad intent. I don't believe he's doing it with bad intent, however, if you look at a lot of replays and games, you see Bruce does do that often. And if I weren't a Spurs fan and didn't know him well, I'd think it was dirty as well.
Thomas was just way off base with those rude comments, it's one thing to try and "fire up" your team by encouraging them to give a hard foul next time a player comes into the lane or something, it's another to encourage players to "break someone's foot" to say that they would "murder" the player. I mean, it sounds phychotic.
Raja Bell. I thought for sure Manu's play was payback for what Bell was doing to him the whole game. But's that the game, and Manu plays it real well. It's the old saying "you give as good as you get." And certain guys are good at this part of the game. It's wierd how this part of the game has changed, in the 60's and 70's the power forward position was reserved for physical guys like Maurice Lucas, Paul Silas, Coby Dietriech and the infamous Kermit Washinton, guys who were called enforcers and thier job was to retaliate when someone on thier team got hurt or some player on the other team got hot. I can't even remember how all this began to change, the Tomjanovich incident certainly had a lot to do with it, but even the bad boys of Detroit put a lot of hurt on every team.
How times have changed.
He didn't do anything similar to Crawford.
A defensive player has to get close and go up to defend against a jump shot. An offensive player often goes forward toward the hoop with his body follow through. Is there any wonder that they have some unintentional contact around the feet when they come down?
If the refs see any body to body contact while they are in the air, they call it. Feet entanglements are inevitable but not intentional.
Bowen deserves that for being the dirtiest piece of player to ever step field on a nba court
SAN STORM
DUNCAN IS NO FAN OF ISIAH IRE
By MARC BERMAN
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11122006...arc_berman.htm
November 12, 2006 -- SAN ANTONIO - Sensing his tired Knicks were ready to give up, Isiah Thomas took the fight into his own hands against the Spurs' Bruce Bowen in looking to spark his team.
Late in the first quarter, Thomas went on a profanity-laced tirade against Bowen, under a league investigation for a dirty undercut of Steve Francis on Monday that put Francis on the shelf indefinitely with a sprained ankle.
Thomas was not going to let Jamal Crawford go down with a similar injury. So when Crawford missed a 3-pointer with 3:46 left in the first quarter and Bowen appeared to put his foot under him, Thomas exploded, even though there was no contact, no harm, no foul.
The ensuing confrontation also included Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, one of Larry Brown's dearest friends,
None of Thomas' rage, however, translated into a Knick victory, but he may have avoided a blowout. After an awful 14-3 start, the Knicks recovered following Isiah's outburst but ultimately ended their three-game road trip with a 100-92 defeat last night at AT&T Center, dropping them to 2-5, 1-2 on the trip.
The Spurs' Tim Duncan ripped Thomas afterward.
"It's just a bad situation when a coach puts himself in that position and goes after a player," Duncan said. "It's very uncalled for. We have bigger plans than trying to hurt somebody."
Well, the Knicks appreciated it.
"It definitely got our whole team fired up," Crawford said, "When you see your coach fight like that."
There was enough harsh language to make Eva Longoria blush. Longoria sat in the fifth row watching her French boyfriend Tony Parker destroy the Knicks again for the second time in five days with 33 points (12 of 17, six assists). Duncan also unleashed his "A" game, with 24 points and 16 boards. Quentin Richardson
yeah he goes around breaking people's orbits. btw it's step foot.
Kori, I'm not sure if they showed the replay in SA of what went on before Thomas got all fired up. They sure did in NY, and it was very similar to what happened with Francis last Monday. The only difference was Crawford not falling on Bruce's foot.
The reality is BB has a tendency of extending one of his legs under the player he is guarding when that player is jumping. He does it sometimes and when he does, the entire country's media is on top of him. You can agree or not with Bruce's defence methods, but there is no point in denying this tendency.
It wasn't similar at all. I was sitting in the arena and watched it several times later. Bruce's legs are always going to be close to the shooter legs. Othewise he isn't doing his job.
I know you can sit here and break down every film of Bruce being near his man and analyze, but my point is that you aren't looking at film of what every other defender in the league does. What Bruce does happens to tons of other players in the league but no one is looking at it. It happens when you crowd a player when you guard him. If you looked at tape of everyone in the league, you'd see Bruce's "tendency" is a lot of players tendency. In all Bruce's years in the league only SFrancis and VCarter have gotten injured by this. And Francis doesn't even think Bruce did anything wrong.
Who the is Bowen to play fundamental basketball. Doesn't he know he should just get down court and cherry pick for a layup like all the guys at the playground [/boutons]
You've obviously never played a lick of basketball in your life. As long as I can remember we were always taught to box out the shooter, whether he's five feet from the rim or twenty five feet.
See boutons, long shots often result in long rebounds. If you don't box out your man deep and he follows his shot, any long rebound comes straight to him. So it's necessary to box out to ensure your man doesn't get the rebound.
As to how many NBA players follow their own shot from deep... most of the Euros who were coached up with good solid fundamentals do. And besides, you can't fault Bowen for doing the fundamental things right on the court, it's part of what makes him so good.
Kinda like he moves his feet on defense instead of playing defense with his hands. I could ask you the same question - how many people play D in the league with their feet and not their hands. Not many, but the ones who do are damn good at it and piss off the candy asses like Ray Ray and Carter who think everyone should part the seas for them so they can make Sportscenter.
You're as dumb about basketball as you are about politics.
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