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One step forward, three steps back.Did anyone else notice that he said, "Afro Americans"
Those of you who are justifying his tirade really make me wonder. Its funny because Ice Cold Brewski got really riled up about something a media outlet was doing a few weeks ago, but here he sees no problem with Richards unleashing one of the biggest racial meltdowns we've seen since Fuzzy Zoeller and he has no problem with it.
I don't know some of you, but sometimes your true colors shine right through from what you say on here.
One step forward, three steps back.Did anyone else notice that he said, "Afro Americans"
He needs a Festivus miracle!
Since you don't know the true context of what was said before he blew up, might I question this Manny.
You think it's ok that there was a chance they made racial slurs towards him? Or is it perfectly fine for someone to shout racial comments to a white person, because they are white and should take it like a man?
You really crack me up thought with your comments, and your true colors shine through pretty well. Keep that in mind that you're possibly condoning racism also. But you don't know, hence why I made the statement I did, kkthnxbai.
I get it. So the moral of the story is:
If you're black, and you happen to say or do anything that upsets a white man, he has the right to racially abuse you and an entire group of people, when the action that upsetted the white man had NOTHING to do with race (Comedy Club?). On the other hand, if you're a white heckler, you're guaranteed to be attacked based on your character or on your actions.
I can't wait for Steve Nash to start calling black spectators "######s" and invoke memories of American lynching when fans boo him on the free throw line.
I mean seriously, the rationale people use to justify actions such as these just go to show that what Kramer said wasn't a "mistake" at all. This is how people think.
As a very white person, I say yes. Why is it necessary for me to lower myself to that level? I'm better than that. If they or you aren't, that's not my problem.You think it's ok that there was a chance they made racial slurs towards him? Or is it perfectly fine for someone to shout racial comments to a white person, because they are white and should take it like a man?
When did I say anything about it being ok for anyone to shout racial slurs because they weren't white? Where did you read me condoning the man calling richards a "cracka-ass"? Where am I condoning any of the behavior exhibited in those videos?
Go ahead and let me know.
While I do think it is much worse to be a paid professional who goes off in a tirade like that, I don't think calling Richards by any racial slurs is acceptable either. If he had said anything racial, Richards should have asked to have the man removed instead of doing his best I'm a huge ing bigot too! routine.
Richards simply needs to learn how to project his racist rage into discussions about Spurs' centers.
ing exactly. Also, its pretty obvious when someone is using shock as an act, and I didn't see it in that video. I saw Richards lose it, launch into a racist tirade, realize what he had done, and tried to backtrack by making it seem like a shock act. I think the "Oh " switch flipped in his head.
And this would be why racism still exists today. Because people "take it like a man" and thus those people feel the can continue to do it to any white person they come across.
If someone gives them a taste of their own medicine (see this situation if they did heckle him with racial slurs, please keep this in mind) they cry foul and it's because they're black.
I don't stand for anyone insulting me, and I'm probably as white as you ... there is absolutely no excuse for someone to insult my race, and vice versa unless they decide to try and play a race card towards me. If you keep race out of an arguement with me, I will not bring it up, as it should be.
If you feel that it is lowering yourself to toss back insults to someone insulting your heritage, then so be it ... it's not like you're killing someone or stealing something. You're giving them a taste of their own medicine.
Kids don't learn that something is hot by their parents telling them it is - they touch it and find out, and normally in a bad way. It's human reaction. You'll continue to do it until something negative comes back at you ...
You were saying that you couldn't believe that people were trying to condone his actions - I was explaining my viewpoint on the subject since I had heard that they were shouting racial slurs at him before we saw the video. That's the only way I was justifying his reaction.
While asking to have someone removed vs. his actions, I don't know ... I doubt I would have responded like he, but no one should have had to ask to have them removed - the club should have done it before it got as bad as it obviously did.
Nah, I'm killing myself inside if I lower myself that way.If you feel that it is lowering yourself to toss back insults to someone insulting your heritage, then so be it ... it's not like you're killing someone or stealing something. You're giving them a taste of their own medicine.And yelling the N word in public over and over again sure taught that black guy not to use (alleged by you) racial slurs anymore? Ha.Kids don't learn that something is hot by their parents telling them it is - they touch it and find out, and normally in a bad way. It's human reaction. You'll continue to do it until something negative comes back at you ...
I'm not appologizing for Richards at all. I just mentioned that I thought it was funny how Mr. Heckler went from tough-guy to crybaby whiner within a few seconds. Nothing more, nothing less. Man. Some you people really know how to make something out of nothing.
It's probably cause he's Hispanic
I'm not appologizing for Richards at all. I just mentioned that I thought it was funny how Mr. Heckler went from tough-guy to crybaby whiner within a few seconds. Nothing more, nothing less. Man. Some you people really know how to make something out of nothing.
(that was a joke Manny)
Racism exists because some people inherently don't like whats different. However, we don't live in an eye for an eye society. Yeah, I'm sure Richard's tirade has made black people all over the place just love white people.
Like I was saying, there was a rumor going around that they were shouting racial slurs at him before we saw where the video picked up.
He turns around and starts yelling them back at him.
If it did happen this way, then yah ... maybe they'll realize it's not fun to be insulted in that manner. If they don't, then pray they don't run into a particularly racist member of society who wears white garments while burning crosses, because they really won't like persons reaction. I think having the n-word shouted at you over and over will pale in comparison to what that person chooses to do.
Link.You will approve of that reaction too.If it did happen this way, then yah ... maybe they'll realize it's not fun to be insulted in that manner. If they don't, then pray they don't run into a particularly racist member of society who wears white garments while burning crosses, because they really won't like that members reaction. I think having the n-word shouted at you over and over will pale in comparison to what that person chooses to do.
I don't get why you are more apt to believe a rumor that you heard (and it doesn't seem anyone else here did) than anything. It's kind of weird.
Not even Richards says it started that way.
I have to admit I'm amazed at the lengths to which people will go to try to rationalize this.
No, that's a lie. I'm not amazed at all.
Really, if the hecklers were yelling racial slurs, then everyone would have just understood if Richards asked them to leave or had them removed. Why is your answer to racism more racism?
Some people in this thread are coming across rather stupid. Standup comics have been heckled as long as there have been standup comics. That's part of the job description. If you can't handle being heckled, you don't belong on stage.
There's nothing the hecklers could have said that should have warranted that reaction. The comic is the guy on stage. If he thought it was that bad, stop the show and get them removed.
And this isn't just because its a black and white thing. If Chris Rock was on stage and a couple of Jewish people starting heckling him and he pulled the Holocaust card, he'd be having to go on Letterman with fake tears in his eyes, too. If Mouse was on stage and a Native American starting heckling him and he pulled out the Jeffrey Amherst smallpox card, he'd probably get deported.
But yeah, go ahead and justify Kramer melting down
Ever heard of Darwin? While unfortunate, and I do not condone violence ... there's something to be said about natural selection.
Well, there's not a lot of people who are posting in this thread in regards to this issue that might read one of the other websites I frequent.
At this point, all of us arguing anymore would be stupid ... you will not change my view on this particular possible situation, and I will obviously not change yours.
That's what makes us unique ... I believe in an eye for an eye, as lenient consequences do not permanently fix a problem. People need to understand their actions, and the true consequences for them. If someone feels that they can walk around calling people foul names, not even racial slurs and gets shot, beat up, etc. then they have what is coming to them. The law will take care of that person who shot them, etc.
Where you choose to put your stance on this issue doesn't matter to me. Until I see with my own eyes/hear with my own ears exactly what happens here, I float between my two positions.
People have singled out those of us who condone it in a particular situation. , I think hecklers are rude to begin with and are subject to whatever a comedian throws back at them ... you started it, and if a comedian does want to do what "Kramer" did, that's their choice.
And don't get the fact that I condone his response in a particular situation as intelligent ... he should have handled it differently, but we shouldn't be lynching his reputation until we see a full story on what had happened, which many people here want to do it seems.
Lynching? Funny you use those words.
What should we do with the fork?
You're right, because we don't share the same opinion, I obviously am wrong.
Some people in this thread are coming across rather stupid. Standup comics have been heckled as long as there have been standup comics. That's part of the job description. If you can't handle being heckled, you don't belong on stage.
There's nothing the hecklers could have said that should have warranted that reaction. The comic is the guy on stage. If he thought it was that bad, stop the show and get them removed.
And this isn't just because its a black and white thing. If Chris Rock was on stage and a couple of Jewish people starting heckling him and he pulled the Holocaust card, he'd be having to go on Letterman with fake tears in his eyes, too. If Mouse was on stage and a Native American starting heckling him and he pulled out the Jeffrey Amherst smallpox card, he'd probably get deported.
But yeah, go ahead and justify Kramer melting down
I love your opinion timvp, but shove it up yourif you're not going to be open to .
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