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    And I might add...in 03-04...asking him to guard Shaq may have had something to do with it....guy is a SF puffed up to the max to defend someone Duncan's size...asking him to guard Shaq was insane. It's like trying to stop a bullet with a piece of paper.

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    He's up to 19 minutes a game over the last 10, and if tonight's any indication he's going to be playing 20+ a night.
    So if he plays around 19, then we should win a le because that's what happened in 2005

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    Whott, I'll stand by what I said. Against Dallas he didn't even have enough spring in his legs to make a layup at one point. Dude just doesn't have a ton left in the tank.

    Time will tell if I'm right or wrong as the season and playoffs come around, but I just don't like where it's headed...

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    Whott, I'll stand by what I said. Against Dallas he didn't even have enough spring in his legs to make a layup at one point. Dude just doesn't have a ton left in the tank.

    Time will tell if I'm right or wrong as the season and playoffs come around, but I just don't like where it's headed...
    Back out of the thread now because you were owned. The Spurs never used Horry even close to the amount the Lakers did in his last season there.

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    And I might add...in 03-04...asking him to guard Shaq may have had something to do with it....guy is a SF puffed up to the max to defend someone Duncan's size...asking him to guard Shaq was insane. It's like trying to stop a bullet with a piece of paper.
    So, if we end up playing the Heat in the Finals, are you expecting Tim to guard Shaq? Because I think Pop would pull the same as then - Oberto gets into foul trouble and it's Horry's turn to fight the big man.

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    Back out of the thread now because you were owned. The Spurs never used Horry even close to the amount the Lakers did in his last season there.
    Do you have his playoff MPG? I can't find them on the Spurs site. I'd like to see them for the last 4 years.

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    Do you have his playoff MPG? I can't find them on the Spurs site. I'd like to see them for the last 4 years.

    In 2004-05 playoffs he played 27 mpg and the Spurs won a le. Is that the stat you are looking for?

    04-05 - 18.8mpg regular season/27mpg playoffs - LE
    05-06 - 18.6mpg regular season/17mpg playoffs - NO LE

    No logic to your conclusions.

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    no wonder we never know when its gonna rain either.

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    It seemed like he played more minutes last year against Sacto and Dallas, guess I was wrong.

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    Shaq aint the same Shaq anymore....

    But should push come to shove, and should Shaq have turned the clock back, well hopefully Butler will have something to offer by then...because I don't really want to see Elson or Horry on him.

    But I'd much rather see Duncan and his 8-9 All NBA D Teams on him in a pinch over Horry or Elson.


    Duncan and Shaq went Manu A Manu during the 03 le run at the end of several games remember?

    I watched Shaq and Zo guard Dirk in stretches last season, and they put him on his ass...sometimes stars have to go Manu a Manu...

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    It seemed like he played more minutes last year against Sacto and Dallas, guess I was wrong.
    Good job.

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    Pop last year went incredibly small. Tim was the only big man on the court, it was 4 guards and Tim for all the playoffs after Game 2 against Sac. I guess I understand why Horry didn't get more minutes cause of his age and the speed which all the games were being played at.

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    Horry isn't rebounding more or blocking more shots to make a significant difference. Thats difference in those stats is a few rebounds and a few blocks. I would say he's playing at the same level with the exception that his offense is absolutely horrible at the moment.

    I think for most of his career, Horry has been an underrated defender especially off the ball, so I'm not surprised that he's still doing that. But we can't make it seem as though he's playing much better in those regards because of what could turn out to be little more than a statistical anomaly.

    If he starts hitting shots - and more importantly layups - then it'll all be moot. BUt right now he's putting up what are basically the same stats on defense/rebounding but shooting way worse and putting up about half the PPG he put up last year.

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    If he starts hitting shots ....
    Did you watch the game tonight? Maybe he started.

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    I have no problem eating crow, and if Horry comes up big later on this season, then I'll be just as happy as anyone else. I'm not a Horry hater, I just think the dude is running on fumes.

    I don't want a NVE repeat this year. I don't want him to take away from playing time that can go do Elson or Bonner; especially early in the year when we need to see what we have in those 2.
    Exactly, totally agree.

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    Did you watch the game tonight? Maybe he started.
    One game doesn't make a trend. Hopefully it continues though.

    You know if it does, I'm gonna take credit because of this thread.



    I'll call out Finley next.

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    He made some shots vs Houston to bring em back in that game too.....

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    BTW, from what I've seen of Bonner, Horry can go ahead and take his time.

    Bonner is Brad Lohaus all over again.

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    Horry looked motivated against Seattle, he must have been pissed off by the way he played against Dallas

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    Horry was due!

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    The man can shoot when he's feeling it...but cannot pivot for crapp. He's got now coordination when dribbling.

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    One game doesn't make a trend. Hopefully it continues though.

    You know if it does, I'm gonna take credit because of this thread.



    I'll call out Finley next.


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    It was awesome that Horry didn't play in the fourth quarter tonight. His defense and rebounding wouldn't have helped. Small ball rules.


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    I'm not sure what Pop was trying to accomplish, unless he's getting a cut of Mike Dunleavy's next contract.

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    It was awesome that Horry didn't play in the fourth quarter tonight. His defense and rebounding wouldn't have helped.
    Maybe he wouldn't be riding the pine if he wasn't such a scrub this season. Wake me up when he finally does something worthy of crunchtime minutes in a close game.

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