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    why play the game? or why will SC win?

    Why they will win.

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    As for SC beating Michigan making my point moot ... well, an average UCLA team made you nothing, so your opinion means nothing to me. You said USC would rout UCLA.

    Michigan will make JD Booty cry before that games over ... literally. Tears will run down his face.

    wgaf? teams lose to other inferior teams all the time...its called a rivalry bro. statements like that make me wonder if many of you posters even watch CFB games.

    btw, care to make a wager on the SC vs. mich game?

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    go back and sift through all my thoughts on the game...i think you'll find as the week progressed i did not even think SC would cover.
    Much like as the next four weeks progress, you will slowly come to realize that USC has no shot against Michigan. Luckily, it's at USC's backyard, so maybe it won't be a blow-out.

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    Why they will win.
    cause they (SC) are better.

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    wgaf? teams lose to other inferior teams all the time...its called a rivalry bro. statements like that make me wonder if many of you posters even watch CFB games.
    Yeah, man. Don't you guys know that the SC / Ore St is the hottest rivalry around? Don't you guys watch CFB?

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    Yeah, man. Don't you guys know that the SC / Ore St is the hottest rivalry around? Don't you guys watch CFB?
    hey, "capt. for brains", i think you get my point...well maybe not.

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    wgaf? teams lose to other inferior teams all the time...its called a rivalry bro. statements like that make me wonder if many of you posters even watch CFB games.

    btw, care to make a wager on the SC vs. mich game?
    I don't gamble money except at casinos and playing cards among friends. I don't bet on sports.

    Putting some "USC" signature attached to my account doesn't embarrass me. But, if you want to wager something like "I'm one of the University of Michigan's es" on your sig when USC loses, that's fine.

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    hey, "capt. for brains", i think you get my point...well maybe not.
    Yes, I get your point. SC lost to 2 inferior teams and Mich lost to none.

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    cause they (SC) are better.

    Wow, what great expertise, such insight, such a good breakdown. I personally think Michigan will win b/c I think that Michigan will rectify their mistake against OSU and run Mike Hart more, which means they will eat more of the clock and keep Booty and Jarrett off the field, they will try to blitz and rattle Booty and will try to smack him around and get him a little jumpy, and I personally think Michigan has more to play for than SC, seeing that they can somehow try to prove to everyone else that they belong in the Championship game. Ah , none of that matters anyway, I'm just going to say Michigan is better, and that is my reasoning.

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    I don't gamble money except at casinos and playing cards among friends. I don't bet on sports.

    Putting some "USC" signature attached to my account doesn't embarrass me. But, if you want to wager something like "I'm one of the University of Michigan's es" on your sig when USC loses, that's fine.
    thats fine. you can put, "i wish i could suck Pete Carroll's " on yours.

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    thats fine. you can put, "i wish i could suck Pete Carroll's like johngateswhiteley" on yours.
    Whoa.

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    ...truly a child. sad that you must resort to quoting me inaccurately.

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    thats fine. you can put, "i wish i could suck Pete Carroll's " on yours.
    When USC loses?

    I don't think I should have to put anything in my sig WHEN USC loses.

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    When USC loses?

    I don't think I should have to put anything in my sig WHEN USC loses.
    so loser has to don the winner's desired statement?

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    Ummm yeah. Apparently you didn't get the fact that my statements were meant to show how confident I am in the notion that Michigan will beat USC in the Rose Bowl.

    But, it's whatever. If by miracle, Michigan loses, I'll put that I want to suck Peter Carroll's in my sig. It simply isn't happening. I won't even change my statement to put in your sig to be as vulgar or obscene as what you want me to put when Michigan beats USC.
    Last edited by JamStone; 12-04-2006 at 03:18 PM.

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    That's why you are so hard to take seriously jgw. You say someone wants to "suck Pete Carroll's " then you call someone else a child. You say people have no football knowledge, and yet say you don't need to prove why a team will win you just think so. At least you are consistant.

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    JohnGatesWhiteley, is that Brian Cushing in the leftmost part of your signature picture?

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    That's why you are so hard to take seriously jgw. You say someone wants to "suck Pete Carroll's " then you call someone else a child. You say people have no football knowledge, and yet say you don't need to prove why a team will win you just think so. At least you are consistant.
    ...if you cannot tell when someone is joking, being serious, or what their tone is at all...then i don't know what to tell you. if you think there is no difference between someone displaying bet sig ideas and someone misquoting you, then i don't know what to tell you.

    and you see, this is why you never underestimate the ignorance of ok state fans or people in general for that matter. its quite easy to decipher tone and meaning in a forum....if you can read....and follow.

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    Florida played 6 ranked team, won 5 of those games.

    I SEC was the best conference this year, The Big 10 was really a poor conference this year.

    Michigan played 3 ranked teams, won 2.

    Michigan could not evn win their conference, why should they play for Championship of the whole country, when they can not evn get out of the conference.

    This happened a couple of times before, when Nebraska did not win the Big 12 and still got the nod to play Oklahoma for the le, is one that comes to mind.

    I disagreed that time, and I would have this time.
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    Florida played 6 ranked team, won 5 of those games.

    I SEC was the best conference this year, The Big 10 was really a poor conference this year.

    Michigan played 3 ranked teams, won 2.

    Michigan could not evn win their conference, why should they play for Championship of the whole country, when they can not evn get out of the conference.

    This happened a couple of times before, when Nebraska did not win the Big 12 and still got the nod to play Oklahoma for the le, is one that comes to mind.

    I disagreed that time, and I would have this time.


    And, why didn't Michigan win its conference?

    Oh yeah, because the NUMBER ONE team in the country did.

    In the Olympics, do they deny the silver medal to an athlete if he or she represents the same country as the gold medalist???

    Don't you see where that logic is messed up?


    The point of the BCS was to determine the two best teams in the country to have them play in the National Championship game. The purpose is not to identify the two best teams among those that won their conference.

    How about this scenerio: Say both Michigan and Ohio State were undefeated and didn't play each other for some reason. The Big Ten doesn't have a championship game. But, if hypothetically point differential determined the Conference champion and Ohio State won the Big Ten Conference even though Michigan was also undefeated. There were no other undefeated teams in the country. Would you still argue that a team that didn't win its conference shouldn't be in the le game?

    I've been saying this over and over again. The system is flawed. It needs to be changed.

    I'm a Michigan fan and alum. And, yes, I'm disappointed that Michigan doesn't get a chance at the national le when they are arguably the second best team in the country. I'm not mad at Florida or Urban Meyer or even the coaches and voters who gave the nod at Florida. I'm upset at the system. Year after year, the BCS proves to be a very flawed system. Then a year like last year happens, the the BCS honks think it's fine. It's not.

    The BCS needs to have a playoff system.

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    And, why didn't Michigan win its conference?

    Oh yeah, because the NUMBER ONE team in the country did.

    In the Olympics, do they deny the silver medal to an athlete if he or she represents the same country as the gold medalist???

    Don't you see where that logic is messed up?


    The point of the BCS was to determine the two best teams in the country to have them play in the National Championship game. The purpose is not to identify the two best teams among those that won their conference.

    How about this scenerio: Say both Michigan and Ohio State were undefeated and didn't play each other for some reason. The Big Ten doesn't have a championship game. But, if hypothetically point differential determined the Conference champion and Ohio State won the Big Ten Conference even though Michigan was also undefeated. There were no other undefeated teams in the country. Would you still argue that a team that didn't win its conference shouldn't be in the le game?

    I've been saying this over and over again. The system is flawed. It needs to be changed.

    I'm a Michigan fan and alum. And, yes, I'm disappointed that Michigan doesn't get a chance at the national le when they are arguably the second best team in the country. I'm not mad at Florida or Urban Meyer or even the coaches and voters who gave the nod at Florida. I'm upset at the system. Year after year, the BCS proves to be a very flawed system. Then a year like last year happens, the the BCS honks think it's fine. It's not.

    The BCS needs to have a playoff system.
    yes, we all know the BCS needs a playoff. but i am not a michigan alum and i have an opinion on the matter as well. its simple, this is the lesser of 2 evils:

    1. florida has not had a chance to play tosu, yet
    2. michigan had their chance...and lost
    3. having florida get a chance is easily the logical play
    4. michigan against tosu again solves NOTHING

    ...can't you see that?

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    I can see your point of view.

    Florida doesn't necessarily solve anything either. If OSU blows out Florida, which conceivable will happen, and Michigan decisively beats USC, which WILL happen, having Florida going to the NC game proved nothing, solved nothing, and just shows that the BCS is the mess that it is.

    Florida had a chance to not have an argument, and lost it when it lost to Auburn. Can't you see that?

    Again, my problem is with the system, not the outcome. Can't you see that?

    The other aspect which has been discussed is that the voters were wrong in how they voted Florida in. If they truly believed that Florida was the better team and deserved to go the National Championship game ahead of Michigan, then why was Michigan ranked ahead of them before the SEC championship game? Better yet, why was Michigan ranked ahead of Florida after Michigan lost to Ohio State? If voters really believe Florida is the better team, they would have been ranked higher than Michigan since the Ohio State victory over Michigan. That's not what happened.

    The voters don't really believe Florida deserves to go ahead of Michigan. It's because they thought USC would beat UCLA and there would be no Michigan/Florida debate. When USC crapped their pants, voters had to rethink it and voted based on not wanting to see a rematch over who they truly believed was the better team.

    The BCS was supposed to determine the two best teams. Voting for Florida, when before the USC loss to UCLA and the SEC championship Florida was ranked behind Michigan, doesn't make sense. If USC wasn't made up of a bunch of choking es, Florida would have remained at #4 behind Michigan. So, why when USC gets punked does Florida jump Michigan?

    How it happened doesn't make sense and is not how the BCS was intended.

    That's why it's messed up. That's why the system is flawed. Because the BCS didn't pit the two best teams in the country when that's the purpose of the BCS to begin. This year, the BCS chose against a rematch. That's not the intent of the BCS system.

    Can't you see that?
    Last edited by JamStone; 12-05-2006 at 02:15 AM.

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    I can see your point of view.

    Florida doesn't necessarily solve anything either. If OSU blows out Florida, which conceivable will happen, and Michigan decisively beats USC, which WILL happen, having Florida going to the NC game proved nothing, solved nothing, and just shows that the BCS is the mess that it is.

    Florida had a chance to not have an argument, and lost it when it lost to Auburn. Can't you see that?

    Again, my problem is with the system, not the outcome. Can't you see that?

    The other aspect which has been discussed is that the voters were wrong in how they voted Florida in. If they truly believed that Florida was the better team and deserved to go the National Championship game ahead of Michigan, then why was Michigan ranked ahead of them before the SEC championship game? Better yet, why was Michigan ranked ahead of Florida after Michigan lost to Ohio State? If voters really believe Florida is the better team, they would have been ranked higher than Michigan since the Ohio State victory over Michigan. That's not what happened.

    The voters don't really believe Florida deserves to go ahead of Michigan. It's because they thought USC would beat UCLA and there would be no Michigan/Florida debate. When USC crapped their pants, voters had to rethink it and voted based on not wanting to see a rematch over who they truly believed was the better team.

    The BCS was supposed to determine the two best teams. Voting for Florida, when before the USC loss to UCLA and the SEC championship Florida was ranked behind Michigan, doesn't make sense. If USC wasn't made up of a bunch of choking es, Florida would have remained at #4 behind Michigan. So, why when USC gets punked does Florida jump Michigan?

    How it happened doesn't make sense and is not how the BCS was intended.

    That's why it's messed up. That's why the system is flawed. Because the BCS didn't pit the two best teams in the country when that's the purpose of the BCS to begin. This year, the BCS chose against a rematch. That's not the intent of the BCS system.

    Can't you see that?
    i agree that no voter thought USC would lose and so they were not worried about a rematch. BUT:

    ...you are DEAD wrong about, "if ohio state blows out florida" it will solve nothing. dead wrong....ohio state is the national champs, then. and will have beaten florida and michigan....game....set....match. over.

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    ...if you cannot tell when someone is joking, being serious, or what their tone is at all...then i don't know what to tell you. if you think there is no difference between someone displaying bet sig ideas and someone misquoting you, then i don't know what to tell you.

    and you see, this is why you never underestimate the ignorance of ok state fans or people in general for that matter. its quite easy to decipher tone and meaning in a forum....if you can read....and follow.

    Then why is it always you that misses the boat?

    You know, animals when they are beaten and backed in a corner often resort to lashing out.

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    Awesome. I finally found the best authentic quote.


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