I'm gone from here until after I come home...

[clambake]

Come on Ruff, just a little spitballing. I actually thought some of us might agree with recommendations from the Iraq Study Group that Bush put together. Now, bush doesn't even agree. No way any rightwingers here would dare stray off W's path. Stuck in reverse.

[Yonivore]

whottt is even crazier than I suspected (yes, let's all embrace nuclear apocalypse! ), and this thread was hijacked into a shouting match between the extremes of left and right. Really, what is the point of the ST political forum? No-one listens, and thus no-one learns anything, there are no compromises or resolutions of problems, are acceptance of new ideas, so why bother? I guess its only real value is to work off some hatred, to throw some vitriol at the shiny screen...

I think I'm gone for good. There are other places I can better spend my time. This place has become a bad habit.

It's therapeutic. Seriously, you didn't ever have any illusions this place actually solved any debates, did you?

Safe travels!

[whottt]

whottt is even crazier than I suspected (yes, let's all embrace nuclear apocalypse! ), and this thread was hijacked into a shouting match between the extremes of left and right. Really, what is the point of the ST political forum? No-one listens, and thus no-one learns anything, there are no compromises or resolutions of problems, are acceptance of new ideas, so why bother? I guess its only real value is to work off some hatred, to throw some vitriol at the shiny screen...

I think I'm gone for good. There are other places I can better spend my time. This place has become a bad habit.

I hope the fact that you'll be riding in a vehicle that will spew more earth warming poutants in a 12-15 hour flight, as you lazily drift off to sleep, than I will in my entire lifetime, helps you sleep well. Way to practice what you preach you man of conviction you.

And no...I don't fly.

Sweet dreams.

[smeagol]

whottt is even crazier than I suspected

You needed 2500+ posts to realize this

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

It's therapeutic. Seriously, you didn't ever have any illusions this place actually solved any debates, did you?

Safe travels!

Naaaaah. Good point. I guess I have used it as therapy from time to time as well.

Thanks for the good wishes.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I hope the fact that you'll be riding in a vehicle that will spew more earth warming poutants in a 12-15 hour flight, as you lazily drift off to sleep, than I will in my entire lifetime, helps you sleep well. Way to practice what you preach you man of conviction you.

And no...I don't fly.

Sweet dreams.

Um, no. You use electricity, you drive a car. That times 70 years will spew a uva lot more CO2 than my plane flight.

If you had any decency you would have read my post on emissions back on the first page - flying is like driving the same distance for every person in the plane seperately. Using the average emission figures for developed world citizens, I will have made up for this flight through changes in my behaviour (riding my bike, buying green energy) in about another year. I will also buy carbon offsets. I live what I say.

Oh, and BTW, although planes emit a lot of CO2, the upper tropospheric clouds they help to form actually contributes to global dimming, which cools the earth. Scientists started to investigate this after they noticed a e in temperatures in the US in the 3 days there were no plane flights after 9/11. Not a justification for my travel, merely an interesting aside.

And you sir, with your God-nuclear axis of insanity, are a crackpot. How you sometimes manage to make sense in the basketball forums is beyond me.

[Nbadan]

Naaaaah. Good point. I guess I have used it as therapy from time to time as well.

Thanks for the good wishes.

You may not think this forum helps, but it beats the out of doing nothing, or even, feeling powerless to do anything. Sometimes its hard to tell when you influence people, but you do.

Best wishes RROS.