Its not gay... its heterosexually challenged.
Believe what you want, bro. As of midnight last night, Bibby, Garcia, Williamson or Potapenko and a first for Iverson, Ollie, filler was on the table. That is the offer from the 76ers. The Kings brass made the choice to sleep on it.
You can choose to believe it or not and call it gay...I don't care.
Its not gay... its heterosexually challenged.
Iverson not going to Bobcats... heard that this morning... This is looking more likely as time goes by.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12122006...sey.htm?page=0THE ANSWER IS . . .
By PETER VECSEY
December 12, 2006 -- UNLIKE so much of what's being upchucked over the internet regarding Proposition Allen Iverson, much of it oozing from ESPN's thin air, no guess-work follows, only facts. Meaning, there's definitely a chance a legit-bidding team or two may escape mention (how's that for covering one's flanks!).
On the other hand, you can go to sleep knowing what you read below is real.
But first let's dismiss, hopefully for the last time, any fantasies about the Knicks obtaining Iverson in any kind of deal that does or doesn't include Chris Webber. They are not, I repeat, any kind of participant in this situation.
In fact, it wouldn't be surprising to learn Isiah Thomas is prohibited by Camp Cablevision boss James Dolan from cooking up any catastrophes that would cost the Knicks additional obligations past their current long-term luxury hole, or hamstring his eventual replacement any more than he'll be.
The Bobcats, flaunting $13-to-$14 millions in prized cap space, are attempting to play facilitator for the 76ers. Management adamantly refuses to part with a single one of its precious young bloods, even Brevin Knight. Despite getting sacked 15 of 20 times, the third-year expansion franchise wisely is preaching patience and, at the same time, is prepared to assume a salary for a season (not Iverson's, though) for the right compensation - solid player, draft pick, money or all of the above.
That's one option, a rather critical one, for Sixers president Billy King. It allows him to get several teams into the mix. That type of transaction, of course, could translate into Philly obtaining more attractive pieces than it can if only one team is involved.
"I don't know who's putting this stuff out there," a team executive groaned in exasperation. "But it all forces me to call Chris Mullin."
The Warriors are as active and aggressive in diving on Iverson's loose body as any team. Not to keep A.I. (and you thought Don Nelson was seriously about playing smallest) but to re-route his $49M, two-years-to-go debt along with at least one of their dead-weight contracts - Adonal Foyle, Troy Murphy or Mike Dunleavy. Jason Richardson is the guy King has coveted for some time. However, his surgically repaired knee is hurting (swollen) - and not only in the healing area.
In talk last summer, the 76ers approached the Clippers about Iverson for Corey Maggette and Shaun Livingston. That same trade is on the table. The thing is, Livingston is utterly untouchable along with Elton Brand and Chris Kaman. If you see their names mentioned in any scenario, you know the writer is source-less. Everybody else is available.
Keeping it out west, the Kings are offering Mike Bibby (who obviously is very appealing), I think. Would he really want to be united with his father, Henry, a Sixers assistant? Would he really want to be reunited with Webber? On the other hand, former Sixers John Salmons, Kenny Thomas and Corliss Williams celebrated their offensive freedom after distancing themselves from Iverson.
It's not clear whether he is more or less appealing because he owns an early-out after this season. It's hard to say whether the 76ers would be happy if he walked away from his two-year ($13.5M/$14.5M) pact or would want a guarantee from him that he'll honor it.
Meanwhile, the Timberwolves remain in the hunt, if only to appease Kevin Garnett, who's clamoring to play with Iverson. Yes, Randy Foye is desirable. But it's decidedly doubtful the 76ers want anything to do with Minnesota's myriad bad contracts belonging to Marko Jaric, Troy Hudson, Mark Blount, Mark Madsen, Mike James and Trenton Hassell. The Sixers want to dump salary, not reproduce it. Ricky Davis is conceivable because he has but one year ($6.8M) left after this.
That leaves Indiana (offering Jamaal Tinsley and just about anyone except Jermaine O'Neal and Danny Granger) and Boston. Danny Ainge is determined to land himself an established veteran and Iverson is it. Paul Pierce is not available. Plenty of sacrificial Celtics are there for the 76ers' plucking, except Al Jefferson. It'd be stunning to think otherwise.
That screeching in the background is Jerry West beseeching outgoing (?) owner Michael Heisley for permission to enter the chase.
And I know people automatically dismiss Vescey but he broke this story in the first place.
I still say Bonner and Finley for AI.
ok, ok....throw in Eric Williams.![]()
I think Bibby + K Martin in exchange for AI and AI Jefferson should be more fair deal. AI > Bibby and with AI, the ball will not be passed to KM.
If Iverson is the point guard then the Kings are in big trouble.
As a Kings fan...do want this trade to happen?
I wonder if the Pacers would send SJAX and someone to the 76ers. Both teams have players who are causing problems.
You could call it the "Troublemaker Trade"![]()
Maloof/Musselman Spin: "Oh Ron Artest has always been a great passer, and now he'll be able to showcase his talent as the perfect compliment to Iverson's playmaking ability"
NBA's Kings Won't Trade for Allen Iverson, Owner Maloof Says
By Scott Soshnick
Dec. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Remove the Sacramento Kings from the list of possible new teams for Allen Iverson, a former Most Valuable Player who has demanded a trade from the Philadelphia 76ers.
``We're staying away,'' Kings co-owner Joe Maloof said in a telephone interview. ``We're not going forward.''
The Kings were among a handful of teams that publicly disclosed an interest in the National Basketball Association's leading scorer when the 31-year-old guard's trade demand was made public last week.
Maloof didn't say why the Kings had changed their mind.
Iverson, a four-time NBA scoring champion, rejected a proposed trade that would have sent him to the Charlotte Bobcats, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.
Among the teams interested in Iverson are the Boston Celtics, Indiana Pacers, Minnesota Timberwolves and Denver Nuggets, the newspaper said.
Iverson joined the 76ers as the first pick in the 1996 draft. He led Philadelphia to the NBA Finals in 2001, when the seven-time All-Star was named the league's MVP.
To contact the reporter on this story: Scott Soshnick in New York at [email protected]
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...u4o&refer=home
Sounds like Billy King just completely screwed himself.
Bibby blew up the deal because he said he couldn't play with his estranged dad, Henry, and threatened not to report to the Sixers. Philly tried to salvage the deal by working out some 3 way deal that would have landed Baron Davis and Dalembert in Sactown, Bibby and others in Golden State, and God knows who in Philly. Sacramento thought both contracts (Baron's and Dalembert's) were prohibitive and were scared off by Baron's injury history.
Sorry to throw this rumor out there before it was confirmed. It backfired,,,Such is the case with reporting unfinished negotiations as opposed to concluded trades.
*walks away in shame*
Don't be ashamed. The board is for discussion and this was a legitimate "almost" done deal. It wasn't like you were just throwing names and teams out there and making stuff up.
We appreciate the contribution.
He will be in Boston, Min, or Golden State, the 3 teams offering the most
cute. i may steal that.
why dont bibby like his pops?
He still puts him in time out, everyone knows that
No one ever mentioned the reunion of Webber and Bibby if this deal would have went down.
Probably because the 76ers are trying to trade Webb as well
I'm hearing that Ainge finally cave in and is willing to offer Jefferson so Boston has a deal that Philly will accept. Now, everyone has to send in their offers topping it or Iverson goes to Boston.
Damn, Jefferson is awesome, I would probably take the Warriors deal, but Bostons is pretty great too
Jefferson, West, Telfair and Ratliff for Iverson is the offer, although Boston may swap out West for a #1. Philly won't get much better in combo of last year as well as young players.
Sac definitely out of it
NBA's Kings Won't Trade for Allen Iverson, Owner Maloof Says
By Scott Soshnick
Dec. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Remove the Sacramento Kings from the list of possible new teams for Allen Iverson, a former Most Valuable Player who has demanded a trade from the Philadelphia 76ers.
``We're staying away,'' Kings co-owner Joe Maloof said in a telephone interview. ``We're not going forward.''
The Kings were among a handful of teams that publicly disclosed an interest in the National Basketball Association's leading scorer when the 31-year-old guard's trade demand was made public last week.
Maloof didn't say why the Kings had changed their mind.
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