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    it's hard to play aggressive when you have probably the most selfish point guard in the league on your team not getting you the ball
    Yeah, let's blame this on Tony.

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    23-9 is pretty bad for a team tryin to win a championship

    we went 63-19 last year

    and this year, at the 23-9 rate, we'll be 46-18


    not too pretty


    but there's a lot of time left in the season

    I'll be much more concerned after the trade deadline after this team makes the changes that they need to
    We'd go around 58-24. I'm down with that.

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    Weeks? I think I've hated Duncan ever since he was playing weak in the '05 championship run.
    Okay dozens of weeks.

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    We'd go around 58-24. I'm down with that.

    58-24 isn't too bad come to think off it


    sucks that Dallas and Phoenix won


    oh well, I'm over it

    it's just 2 games behind

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    I wanna see him dunking with authority. When was the last time he had a monster dunk? I miss those times.

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    Doesn't matter if he kicks our ass if you always lose. We've got no reason to be overly sensitive about Duncan's whining when he's failing to lead his team past a supposedly inferior Mavs team in the playoffs.
    i would just like to point out...

    tim =



    dirk =


    i mean, i'm just sayin....

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    After 10 years and 800 games in the league, Duncan is fully motivated for a meaningless regular season game. I can understand that and I just ask him to be fully motivated for the playoffs. I don't care that Spurs win 60 games in the regular season. I'm fine with 50-55 wins and if everybody is at 100% in his head and in his body for the playoffs, Spurs will be fine (HCA is overrated).

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    After 10 years and 800 games in the league, Duncan is fully motivated for a meaningless regular season game. I can understand that and I just ask him to be fully motivated for the playoffs. I don't care that Spurs win 60 games in the regular season. I'm fine with 50-55 wins and if everybody is at 100% in his head and in his body for the playoffs, Spurs will be fine (HCA is overrated).
    HCA is overated just because spurs lost last year in game seven vs mavs?
    Or you have got other theories?

    No effort and whining - that is important!

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    We in Suns land think Dirk is a bigger whiner.
    This coming from a Suns fan who had to make officiating excuses about a probable Suns loss BEFORE the Suns/Mavs game. Hilarious.


    As for a general comment, Dirk whines, all good ballers whine but for the moron comparing Duncan's whining to Jordan's, here's the difference. Jordan went for the shot which he often made and then complained about a call or no call. Duncan is too damn concerned with getting the call rather than focusing on the shot first and I don't why the he would give a about that, his free throw shooting sucks balls. I actually like it when Duncan has a fit on the floor these days, it means he's getting discouraged and it shows in his game. Dirk never whined much when he entered the league, I guess he learned that this is what good ballers do so he stepped it up and why not, he's great at the line? Kind of the same way Manu realized that flopping can be rewarded with a trip to the line.

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    This year, by far, Duncan is the biggest whiner. But Dirk, Cuban and the Mavs organization have created a long-standing legacy of whining like es. It will take a long time before that changes. In fact, if Dirk and Cuban went mute right now, they'd probably still be known as whiners in 20 years.
    Nah, too many people obsess about Cuban (himself included) but he's not a player so why include him with players who and moan about calls? Cuban's ing comes from the fan in him, not as a business owner, so if we compared him to fans of other teams who whine, well, I don't think the Mavs *org* would win...just look at all the cliffjumpers from last season who went ape about the officiating in the playoffs.


    Dirk is quite an obsession of Spurs fans, he's not typically thought of as much of a whiner (or anything else for that matter!) outside of Dallas and Germany. We should get nba.com to do a *biggest NBA whiner* poll or one of those espn nation polls.

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    HCA is overated just because spurs lost last year in game seven vs mavs?
    Or you have got other theories?
    HCA is only usefull in game 7 and most of the serie doesn't go to game 7.
    Even in the case of a game 7, winning on the road isn't impossible. nba arenas aren't really hostile.

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    HCA is only usefull in game 7 and most of the serie doesn't go to game 7.
    Even in the case of a game 7, winning on the road isn't impossible. nba arenas aren't really hostile.
    Same reasons for the HCA not being overated

    It helps in game seven but it is not imposibble to win earlier

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    Btw - give detroit 2005 home games number 6 and 7 who would be victorious?

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    I rather have HCA than no HCA but I just say that by saying that HCA is overrated :

    - Phoenix and Dallas will be around 20 losses this year. If Spurs wants HCA on them, it will likely be decided in the last games of the regular season. I rather have rested players than HCA and players tired by the fight for the first place.

    - I rather have a player like Duncan who plays at 80% in the regular and who is able to raise his level of play in playoffs than a player like KG who will be better in the regular season but won't raise his level in playoffs and even if it costs HCA to Spurs.

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    thempvp you are the best. I AGREE WITH YOU. TD plays like a chicken.

    POP SUCKS BIG TIME!!

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    I rather have HCA than no HCA but I just say that by saying that HCA is overrated :

    - Phoenix and Dallas will be around 20 losses this year. If Spurs wants HCA on them, it will likely be decided in the last games of the regular season. I rather have rested players than HCA and players tired by the fight for the first place.

    - I rather have a player like Duncan who plays at 80% in the regular and who is able to raise his level of play in playoffs than a player like KG who will be better in the regular season but won't raise his level in playoffs and even if it costs HCA to Spurs.
    I understand but, you are as calm as Bobcats fans. Like you would knew that Spurs won't win a championship.
    Or you know that the spurs are already a 2007 nba champions

    Let's see:
    Rebounding problem which killes us last year is still here
    lack effort problem is here but was not last year
    Tim is whining as never, but at the begining of a season he was pleased with this new "ref' rule
    The spurs are old - yes I know this is cliche but true in todays NBA standard, NBA is faster more athleic and the experience is overrated! (spurs 2006)

    Now tell me. maybe it will be better foir spurs to lay down and wait for the playoffs so we could see some determination and effort, well they will switch it on right? (sarcasm)
    As I said before how you contribute in the regular season reflexes in the playoffs
    When playoffs time will come Tim Duncan will stop whining? Spurs will start to rebound more?
    Think.

    btw - we are talking (wanting) the same thing - a 100% spurs in the playoffs but we are looking diferently on them now.
    I see a biger picture, not sleepwalking through regular season like spurs are doing at the momement!

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    When playoffs time will come Tim Duncan will stop whining? Spurs will start to rebound more?

    If we continue to play like this, the playoffs will just look like the 4th quarter. Too late to turn it around.

    Start playing now, for 48 minutes, every game, with passion.

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    If we continue to play like this, the playoffs will just look like the 4th quarter. Too late to turn it around.

    Start playing now, for 48 minutes, every game, with passion.

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    Duncan is too damn concerned with getting the call rather than focusing on the shot first and I don't why the he would give a about that, his free throw shooting sucks balls. I actually like it when Duncan has a fit on the floor these days, it means he's getting discouraged and it shows in his game.
    this is sooooo true. he whines, starts playing passively since he's thinking he won't get any calls, goes up weak, gets back slow on d...did i mention he whines.

    at some point he should be like it, i'm not getting any calls so i'm just going to go strong on every play and FORCE the refs to make a call. and i agree, for a guy that has such a mental block at the line, why is he always so eager to go. make the shot and then got to the line, dammit!!!

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    you know that the spurs are already a 2007 nba champions
    Yes, but it's a secret.

    When playoffs time will come Tim Duncan will stop whining? Spurs will start to rebound more?
    Think.
    Duncan will play at another level during the playoffs. He will whine less too because he will be more focused.
    You can't expect that Spurs dominate each statiscal category. Rebounding isn't one of Spurs' strength but it's not a weakness too. Spurs are far form being the worst rebounding team in the league.

    You act like it's the end of the world in Spursland. Stop overreacting and leave the suicide mode : Spurs start of the season is good but not great. Spurs have still all their chances to win the championship this year.

    FYI, today's Vegas odds for the 07 le :
    Suns : 10/3
    Spurs : 15/4
    Mavs : 15/4

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    the whining just seems counter productive to me... i would imagine if he kept his head down and played the calls would come more readily.

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    He needs to be T'ed up every single time he whines. Maybe that would shut him up. It's getting way out of hand now.

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    Yes, but it's a secret.



    Duncan will play at another level during the playoffs. He will whine less too because he will be more focused.
    You can't expect that Spurs dominate each statiscal category. Rebounding isn't one of Spurs' strength but it's not a weakness too. Spurs are far form being the worst rebounding team in the league.

    You act like it's the end of the world in Spursland. Stop overreacting and leave the suicide mode : Spurs start of the season is good but not great. Spurs have still all their chances to win the championship this year.

    FYI, today's Vegas odds for the 07 le :
    Suns : 10/3
    Spurs : 15/4
    Mavs : 15/4
    Jeez, the odds!

    Yup Tim will whine less cause you saying so
    Like vs Dallas last year, great observation Bruno.

    The season is good

    Yeah - maybe we should just close every internet spurs site and open it when playoffs will come hm?

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    Duncan will play at another level during the playoffs. He will whine less too because he will be more focused.
    You can't expect that Spurs dominate each statiscal category. Rebounding isn't one of Spurs' strength but it's not a weakness too. Spurs are far form being the worst rebounding team in the league.

    You act like it's the end of the world in Spursland. Stop overreacting and leave the suicide mode : Spurs start of the season is good but not great. Spurs have still all their chances to win the championship this year.

    FYI, today's Vegas odds for the 07 le :
    Suns : 10/3
    Spurs : 15/4
    Mavs : 15/4
    Duncan shouldn't wait until the playoffs, that's the entire point. He has the talent and apparently the energy and health to perform 110% every night, so why isn't he doing it? It's unacceptable. If he just tanks until the playoffs, that's laziness on his part.


    And why do you even throw in Vegas odds?? Vegas odds don't actually translate into a championship. Those odds mean .

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    Tim is actually past pissing me off. I remember watching him in 03 and 04 and even 05 and he was on an entirely different level then than he is now. Now he's just a pretty good player who barely averages 20 and 10. He is very easy to stop because all he ever does is turn and face his defender, then proceed to backing him down and then he throws up a shot. Gone is the bank shot, gone is the aggressiveness. And forget shot blocking and rebounding because he's apparently forgotten how to do both.

    I guess my point is that I'm sick and tired of watching someone who gets payed over 13 million dollars a year to play basketball play with such a lack of effort at times. I just feel bad for the fans who pay to see the Spurs play and have to watch their "superstar" put up lackluster performances almost every game.

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