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Are you a re ? Seriously.
If it's so hard to get your one good player open offensively, how did Arenas go off for 50+ in the same week? How did TMac, the one player would even see time in our rotation from his team, score 44 points tonight?
How did DRob score 71? Wilt 100? How did Elliott hit the MDM when everyone in the building knew he was getting the rock?
I give up. All you ing idiots can have your game losing plays run for Bonner and Bowen. The idiocy of some of you stroking Pop for running a play for 2 for 17 Bowen in that situation when home court was arguably on the line is amazing.
The same staggered screen that got your precious Bowen his shot tonight would have gotten Manu his, and he had a of a lot better probability of making it that Bruce.
I love Bowen for his D and his leadership role on this team, but he shouldn't have been anywhere near the court, let alone the single, solitary, game losing option for the Spurs tonight.
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45% shooter from 3 point territory in his favorite spot seems like a damn good FGA to me.
2-17 shooter in his "favorite" 3 point spot seem like a botched attempt at giving the wrong guy the wrong ball
why Bowen is even on the COURT let alone taking the last shot is beyond me
Any other of the 29 coaches in the league could and would've gotten the ball to Manu
We just happen to have the one idiot who thinks Bowen's hot hand would bring us home
The fact that he was wide open and still missed shows hos badly his shooting has plummeted
I doubt we'll have many more perfect nights from Oberto
A tale of two halves was also the tale of two teams
One, on the decline leaving the championship days behind, and the other beginning what looks like a new championship era of their own
I thought it was a great play... he just missed. What can you say?
ummm, don't give it tot he guy who was 2-17 since the new year?
man was 4/6 from 3 and the only guy who gave a
A decent coach would've gotten the ball to manu
the concept behind the play was good, but the person they opted to give it you was beyond moronic
2-17 from January and 0-3 from his 'favorite spot' already tonight.
Manu was 67% from three tonight, yeah, it was a great play to go to the 45% guy...
Who cares if he was 2-17 starting the New Year? How you shoot in some games has very little bearing on how you shoot in all games.
tim got the ball plenty in the 4th, and promptly held on to it making no move quickly, turned the ball over, or threw up a weak shot while being defended by dirk. he played like a punk in the second half after playing perfectly in the first. did you miss the second half?
Yes, I did. He barely got the ball in the 4th especially. How many times have we seen other players try to be the hero at the end of the game? Should be the team's best player, plain and simple
Okay, fine. He was 2-6 from the FIELD tonight. Manu was 4-6 from THREE.
Better? It was still a dumbass decision to go to Bruce in that situation.
Pop acts like everyone besides Duncan is the same. I am sick and ing tired of Bowen trying to take opponents off the dribble. I am sick and tired of seeing stiffs like Bonner, Beno, Elson and Horry playing. There has to be some kind of ing pecking order to winning a ing game. Duncan is an allstar, Parker is an allstar, Manu was/could be an allstar..... Why in the are you calling plays for ing Bonner and Bowen?????????????????????? HUH? I don't ing get it.
Can I go on roundtable and just totally melt down on Pop? It's about time somebody did.... WHAT THE ?
yes, but even THIS game he was shooting like
there just isn't a single reason to give him the ball
if a guy is cold for the game you don't give him the ball
it's not like bowen was a clutch master for us time and time again that we feel he could go 1-12 in a game and still hit the final shot (he's not Dirk basically)
2-17 just shows that he's been bad for a few games now, all the more reason to put the ball in someone else's hands
Then why are you defending Pop running the last play for Bowen?
You just owned yourself.
Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, who has made fun of San Antonio's River Walk in the past, donned a shirt early in Friday's game that read: "I went to the San Antonio River Walk and all I got was a rash." But later on he was sporting a different one.
One thing is certain: WE NEED PRACTICE.
we shouldn't have gone for the 3 right there at all, let manu or parker drive and try to draw contact and get the quick 2 and hope for the foul. Force the Mavs to make freethrows and then go for three if they make both.
It's this simple.
If you're the San Antonio Spurs in a close game against ANY team in the NBA...you're going to have to make free throws! Period!
It doesn't matter if they missed the open three pointer, missed layups, etc.
FREE THROWS are UNCONTESTED! If you're getting millions of dollars to win games, you better freakin' make your free throws!
It's just that simple.
Yet another fouth quarter meltdown.
They are missing the keyword I always use: POISE !
You'd be surprised to know that Bowen was 2-4 in his last 4 FGAs. That's 50%, players can heat up during the course of a game you know. Bowen hasn't been chosen to shoot in close games very often, so we don't know a lot as to whether he's clutch or not.
What are we, in 9th grade?
First, I thought Duncan should have shot it. Honestly I would take a contested shot from Duncan over an open shot from anyone else. But the fact that Bowen was open and had made 2 of his last 4 shots was good enough for me, + he got it in his favorite spot. Sure it would have been nice to have our best player shooting the final shot - Duncan is capable of making 3s.
We have seen players try to take authority from Duncan. It came down to this situation that you despise so much because players were turning it over and fouling at inopportune times. These players are the same players that some posters have chosen to glorify.
Thanks for proving how clueless you are. What does a contested Duncan jumper do for us with 6 seconds left when we're down 3? It gets us a loss.
Yeah, hope for a bailout from the refs for a three point play, and as plan B get into a FT shooting contest between one of the 5 best FT shooting teams in the league when we're one of the bottom 5.
I can recall several close games where Duncan will take a 3 from the top of the arc. Would it be better for the shot to not be contested? Yeah..and that would be ideal. The Bowen shot was the second best choice. It's a tough loss to swallow, I know. But we'll get our revenge in the playoffs
i'm fine with the last play although manu would have been a better shooter. bruce was open, it was his spot, he missed.
but the real massacre happened in the 2nd half when Tim disappeared. just unbelievably cold and un-clutch. manu tried to rally us back but he got touches too late in the game. i know howard was hounding him in the 4th but pop should've just given the ball to manu for him to penetrate and force the refs to call a blocking or a charge.
and wth is wrong with Barry? you're open for three, you shoot it.
Last edited by carina_gino20; 01-05-2007 at 11:44 PM.
Great play call. Bad decision on who to go to. Bowen had been passing on threes all night. I would have liked Parker from the corner before Bowen with the way Bowen was hesitating.
P.S.
@ Anyone who thinks the Mavs would have given Manu any kind of open look. The whole team ran to him when he got the ball. Manu isn't a player who creates three-pointers off the dribble.
No, the best shot would have been a Manu three from ANYWHERE. Damn dude, quit hedging. First it was a great shot, now it's down to second behind Duncan jacking up a three
What's next? We should have run the play for Oberto, because they would never expect a three from him?
Thanks for the discussion, as one-sided as it has been.
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