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    It's a team game. The Spurs' are built on defense. Defense wins championships. Offense doesn't. See Kings, Sacramento.

    As for Jack, the Spurs passed on Jack for your boy Barry. So when you feel ready to complain about that, look into a mirror and call yourself an idiot for about an hour.

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    It's a team game. The Spurs' are built on defense. Defense wins championships. Offense doesn't. See Kings, Sacramento.
    Right, defense does win les -- as long as your offense is good enough at the same time.

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    Eric Williams' career numbers are not better by a margin that would be comparable to losing Bowen's defense.

    Williams is a serviceable roleplayer off the bench.

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    Given the perimeter talent the Spurs have it is rather difficult to make the case that they don't have enough offense. You need guys who will fill a role and not necessarily put up a lot of points. There are teams in this league that follow a philosophy of filling out their rosters with the best scorers available. They tend not to win championships.

    Sooner or later you would think someone who allegedly follows the Spurs would undestand this.

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    Why would he understand this now.

    It worked in 03, but yet he still denounced it.

    same bs, same day, same ghostwriter, same arguement.


    Bring a new game trick

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    It worked in 2003, because we had more offensive players then.

    Did we win it last year?

    No.

    I forgot.

    With Shaq in the East, the need to have a defensive stopper who doesn't stop and sucks on offense is even less of a priority.

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    So the Spurs don't have "more offensive players" now?

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    "Doesn't stop"... Wow.

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    And Chump, the front office could've traded over the years or signed an upgrade over Bowen.
    You mean Artest?


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    Given the perimeter talent the Spurs have it is rather difficult to make the case that they don't have enough offense. You need guys who will fill a role and not necessarily put up a lot of points. There are teams in this league that follow a philosophy of filling out their rosters with the best scorers available. They tend not to win championships.

    Sooner or later you would think someone who allegedly follows the Spurs would undestand this.
    The whole point is the Spurs need to play better offense than last season if they want to win the le. They were one of the best defensive teams of all time last season in terms of defensive effiency, but were slightly below average on offense. I would be willing to give up a little defense as long as the offense improves.

    Players that filled rosters with scorers didn't win cause they didn't have a good enough leader to make up for their potential offensive inconsistencies. Many of those teams like the Mavs of last season brought in Walker and Jamison, but their offense didn't really improve because having too many scorers can sometimes make offenses less efficient cause certain players like Antoine Walker cannot fill a role.

    Bowen playing 30mpg can work, as long as he hits his threes and the backcourt picks up the slack in the scoring department, also Brent Barry, Malik Rose, and maybe Devin from time to time need to score.

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    You don't sacrifice the D for the O.

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    Would you beleive the defense was actually MUCH better last season in 0304, than in 0203? No because you simply hate Rasho. But fact is the Spurs were better on D last season if you factor the entire season. They were at #3 in the league in 2002-03, and #6 offensively. Sure Drob was out 20 games and Manu had his injuries, but the offense got better at mid-season when Rose (who also started) and Manu became bench demons.

    In 0304 they were by FAR #1 on D, and about 16-17 on offense?

    Sure you don't sacrafice D, but if the team can improve by a lot offensively, than it might slip up a little bit on the defensive end. Plus the fact they lost a solid defender in Hedo at the 3 spot.

    Either way, Spurs have to get better on offense than last season, even if the D stays the same....

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    Also, the Spurs don't need to sacrifice the D for the O given the perimeter players they have, as well as the progression of Ginobili and Parker.

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    Stfu Gw.

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    This year, maybe the Spurs can win despite the fact that Bowen sucks on offense.

    Last year, his defense did not justify his lack of offense.

    And this year, his defense is deteriorating.

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    I've been saying for years now that Ghostwriter is probably the worst poster in the forum. I gave you people a pass a couple seasons ago, when he had some comedic value. But now he can barely come up with coherent arguments.

    It's getting near impossible to justify him.

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    Bowen is shooting 46.3% from the floor, 60% from beyond the arc and 83.3% from the line. Your "other boy" Eric Williams is shooting 27% from the floor.

    Apologize.

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    I'm sorry... I did not realize it was April.

    Do you think he can keep this up?

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    Check his 2003 stats and then get back to me.

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    No one expects him to keep this up.

    Half of this productivity is still eons ahead of Eric Williams or any of your other Scrub Alternatives du Joir.

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    I guarantee that E. Williams finishes this seasonw ith better numbers than Bowen, just like every other season.

    And if you watched the games, you'd know that Williams is regarded as a pretty darn good defender, but not quite on Bowen's level.


    P.S.

    this is like Whitney vs. Parker. You guys fall in love with a Spur until I point out that a NBA scrub is doing basically the same.

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    Eric Williams shot 38% last season.

    Maybe now that you have league pass, you'll see that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.





    P.S.

    What team is Whitney on?


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    I guarantee that E. Williams finishes this seasonw ith better numbers than Bowen, just like every other season.
    Irrelevant. Bowen is here for defense.

    And if you watched the games, you'd know that Williams is regarded as a pretty darn good defender, but not quite on Bowen's level.
    Did you happen to watch Mavs vs. Nets, where Jerry Stackhouse was hitting just about every shot he took?

    Williams isn't an All NBA Defensive 12th Teamer, let alone First.

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    Um, Bowen's defense has not been up to par, hence this entire thread, simpleton.

    Eric Williams was not guarding Jerry Stackhouse the whole game, Spurm.

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    Bowen's defense HAS been up to par, hense all of the posts in this thread besides yours.

    Bowen doesn't guard his man the entire game either, but he's held most accountable when his man goes off.

    Your Scrub du Joir got torched.

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