Chris Webber: Should the Spurs Pursue?

[VaSpursFan]

Let the chace begin.

we're already in the mix??? CIA pop teasing us with the interest in C. Magg????

[Spurminator]

likely

[timvp]

The fact that Spurs haven't an open roster spot and that they are just over the luxury tax threshold reduces chances that Spurs sign him.

I'd imagine they'd do something like Eric Williams and two second round draft picks to Charlotte for a future second round draft pick.

[MannyIsGod]

we're already in the mix??? CIA pop teasing us with the interest in C. Magg????

I'm sure they're working trade deals as well as looking to bring in Webber. I'm not sure they are mutually exclusive unless a trade for Eric Williams goes down in order to free up the roster spot. Either way, even if a trade for EW goes down, that doesn't mean Barry and Beno aren't going to be dealt either.

[MannyIsGod]

Here's what Webber was whining about, unless timvp is talking about something different.



http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/16340183.htm

Its tough to discern if he's ing about playing time or lack of knowing his role. Probably a little of both. Philidelphia strikes me as one of the most mismanaged franchises in the NBA, so who knows.

[timvp]

I'd be interested to read quotes on that subject (whinning). I haven't followed him at all this year, so I'm not sure what his stance on his playing ability has been.

I can't find the quotes this second but he had some drama queen quotes earlier this year about how he just couldn't go on without more minutes

[Mr. Body]

In Phoenix he could ride the pine with his buddy Jalen Rose.

This guy expects playing time, and will kvetch if he doesn't get it. Can we give Webber 30 minutes a night?

Who do we cut to get him? Sayonara Eric Williams?

People forget, too, that Webber is the least clutch PF since Karl Malone, though I suppose those duties won't go over to him.

I can't believe he's only 33. Those Michigan dudes aged FAST.

[VaSpursFan]

I'm sure they're working trade deals as well as looking to bring in Webber. I'm not sure they are mutually exclusive unless a trade for Eric Williams goes down in order to free up the roster spot. Either way, even if a trade for EW goes down, that doesn't mean Barry and Beno aren't going to be dealt either.

c.webb and c. magg, wow. that could be interesting.

[MannyIsGod]

I think its unreasonable to expect that this former superstar would go out and do some dirty work and keep it to 5 or 8 shots a game. I think his offense is toast and this is the kind of guy that needs 12-16 shots a game to get rolling. He'll want to put it up on every offensive rebound. Glen didn't do much for us in a similar role and if we bring this guy in it'd be a 2-3 year deal I'm sure. No sense in him doing a one year deal and showcase his fall from grace for all the world to see. I bet he thinks he's got 3 years left and is probably worried about disappearing ala Spree.

It would be a less clutch worse defensive Horry all over again.

Glen Robinson played some damn good defense on Carmelo Anthony.

[Mr. Body]

I think its unreasonable to expect that this former superstar would go out and do some dirty work and keep it to 5 or 8 shots a game. I think his offense is toast and this is the kind of guy that needs 12-16 shots a game to get rolling. He'll want to put it up on every offensive rebound. Glen didn't do much for us in a similar role and if we bring this guy in it'd be a 2-3 year deal I'm sure. No sense in him doing a one year deal and showcase his fall from grace for all the world to see. I bet he thinks he's got 3 years left and is probably worried about disappearing ala Spree.

It would be a less clutch worse defensive Horry all over again.

Nailed it.

You're right, Webber won't take a one-year contract. Offering him more would be ludicrous.

[timvp]

I think its unreasonable to expect that this former superstar would go out and do some dirty work and keep it to 5 or 8 shots a game. I think his offense is toast and this is the kind of guy that needs 12-16 shots a game to get rolling. He'll want to put it up on every offensive rebound. Glen didn't do much for us in a similar role and if we bring this guy in it'd be a 2-3 year deal I'm sure. No sense in him doing a one year deal and showcase his fall from grace for all the world to see. I bet he thinks he's got 3 years left and is probably worried about disappearing ala Spree.

It would be a less clutch worse defensive Horry all over again.

The Spurs would most likely offer him a one-year deal. They don't have any way to offer him too much more than the league minimum.

There are still clubs out there who haven't used their MLE, so it'll be interesting to see if one of them decides to use it (or part of it) on Webber.

[MannyIsGod]

Its not that I'm over valuing what Webber brings to the table at this point, its that I know what our bigs bring to the table. Beggars can't be choosers, and believe me, we're ing begging right now.

[Louae]

Of course his best days are behind him, but if he's willing to come off the bench and be a role playing rebounder, then of course the Spurs should pursue him. Whats the worst that happens? He takes away minutes from Elson or Oberto? oh god no!

Philly made this deal because it saved them a TON of money. I don't see any reason the Spurs shouldn't be on the phone with his agent and trying to put him in a Spurs uni. He may provide some rebounding, which we sorely sorely need right now.

He might provide us rebounding, but he can't move laterally for . He'd be the bigman equivalent to Nick "the Quick" Van Exel.

[VaSpursFan]

Its not that I'm over valuing what Webber brings to the table at this point, its that I know what our bigs bring to the table. Beggars can't be choosers, and believe me, we're ing begging right now.

we are shaking the tin can right about now

[MoSpur]

I know Pop likes Webber a lot. However, how much does Webber like the idea of playing a ROLE in San Antonio is more important to this situation. We all know money is not going to be an issue. Its his minutes and playing for a championship.

[Bruno]

I'd imagine they'd do something like Eric Williams and two second round draft picks to Charlotte for a future second round draft pick.

Yes, something like that (even if Charlotte hasn't an open roster spot, so it should be : Williams+2nd+cash for Hermann).

It's not a complicate deal to do but Spurs had to do a trade before signing Webber.

[timvp]

He might provide us rebounding, but he can't move laterally for . He'd be the bigman equivalent to Nick "the Quick" Van Exel.

Perhaps. Well, actually he could be worse because Van Exel didn't have any problem coming off the bench.

On the other hand, there's also the chance that he ignores not having any cartilage in his knees for a few months and helps the Spurs and buys into his role.

I'd say if the Spurs signed him, chances are it'd be a failure for either health or chemistry reasons. But who knows, I guess.

[MannyIsGod]

Yes, something like that (even if Charlotte hasn't an open roster spot, so it should be : Williams+2nd+cash for Hermann).

It's not a complicate deal to do but Spurs had to do a trade before signing Webber.

Getting a player in return makes the trade pointless, they'd probably do it for a draft pick.

[Spurminator]

I wouldn't expect him to take a multi-year deal right now. His value is low right now and his character is in question. I expect him to sign with a contender for the remainder of the year, be a good boy and try to increrase his prospects for a bigger multiyear payday in the offseason.

[Marcus Bryant]

Webber's contract wouldn't go past 2008, so Buford's sprouting wood.

[Bruno]

Getting a player in return makes the trade pointless, they'd probably do it for a draft pick.

They will waive him just after the trade.

[VaSpursFan]

Webber's contract wouldn't go past 2008, so Buford's sprouting wood.

[timvp]

I wouldn't expect him to take a multi-year deal right now. His value is low right now and his character is in question. I expect him to sign with a contender for the remainder of the year, be a good boy and try to increrase his prospects for a bigger multiyear payday in the offseason.

Yeah, Webber would be going the Tim Thomas route. Play team ball for half a season and then try to bank in the offseason.

Or at least he should do that if he's smart.

[timvp]

Webber's contract wouldn't go past 2008, so Buford's sprouting wood.

Exactly

[Spurminator]

That would make no sense for someone with diminishing skills. He takes one year and if it doesn't work out the rest of the league will see right through it and that'll be it for him. That would cost him way too much money.

No one's going to offer him anything substantial long-term. The only teams that want him will look at him as a rental. They'll be more likely to overpay THIS season to have him for the Playoffs than to try to sign him on long term.

If I'm a GM, I'd rather pay $4 million for this season than $2 mill per for this season and next.