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    I agree, they'd be significantly worse which is why he's been voted the MVP the last 2 seasons.

    I hope that is not the reason why he won 2 MVP. The Suns have more All-Stars than the Mavs. Does that mean the Suns All-Stars are not True All-Stars? Why is it that Nash leaves the Mavs for more cash and the Mavs get better and better after he leaves? If Dirk is not playing, do the Mavs suffer more than the Suns with out Nash? Nash only does his job on the offensive end and Dirk does the job on the offensive and defensive end. Just think if Nash had to play under Avery? Maybe that is why he left, he didn't want to play Defense. Why is Phoenix so good? Style of play.

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    I hope that is not the reason why he won 2 MVP. The Suns have more All-Stars than the Mavs. Does that mean the Suns All-Stars are not True All-Stars? Why is it that Nash leaves the Mavs for more cash and the Mavs get better and better after he leaves? If Dirk is not playing, do the Mavs suffer more than the Suns with out Nash? Nash only does his job on the offensive end and Dirk does the job on the offensive and defensive end. Just think if Nash had to play under Avery? Maybe that is why he left, he didn't want to play Defense. Why is Phoenix so good? Style of play.

    Your celts may have 16 world les but they are not the best team in NBA history. You havent been anything close to a le contender in quite some time while the Lakers cant say the same thing.

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    I hope that is not the reason why he won 2 MVP. The Suns have more All-Stars than the Mavs. Does that mean the Suns All-Stars are not True All-Stars? Why is it that Nash leaves the Mavs for more cash and the Mavs get better and better after he leaves? If Dirk is not playing, do the Mavs suffer more than the Suns with out Nash? Nash only does his job on the offensive end and Dirk does the job on the offensive and defensive end. Just think if Nash had to play under Avery? Maybe that is why he left, he didn't want to play Defense. Why is Phoenix so good? Style of play.
    Yeah, you pretty much forget what your 1980s teams were like - giving up 140+ points in the Finals to the Lakers and running and gunning. I guess Bird didn't make players like Ainge, Walton, Chris Ford, KC Jones, etc. better... Btw, Auerbach, Cousy, and Russell pretty much invented the fast breaking style of play.

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    Suns must haven't been concerned either. The only thing they were worried about was blowing kisses and ripping off from a ing wrestler.






    , at least bring Q back. His celebration was much better.

    Suns don't have either of them anymore, so I don't see what your point is. I've never seen anyone get on a player who was with a team only 2 months more than you have regarding Tim Thomas. You must have a huge hard-on for him or something... I just can't figure it out.

    You sit here and act like those two guys were the faces of the organization... I rip on Terry/Dirk/Howard who are pretty much your "big 3" down there, so I don't understand the focus on guys no longer with the team. If you want me to, I can start talking about Flagrant "Pussy" McGee (Stackhouse) whose fake toughness act is getting old really quick. I guess he has a chip on his shoulder from sucking it up all these years. I could also rip on Adrian Griffin and his bull rubbing it in dunk at the end of the WCF last year and his bug-eyed elbowing of Marion in Game 5, but I don't because the two of them are inconsequential pieces of .

    By the way, Thomas called Dirk a "big ass pussy" before blowing the kiss, which was probably just foreshadowing his Finals' collapse.

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    Yeah, you pretty much forget what your 1980s teams were like - giving up 140+ points in the Finals to the Lakers and running and gunning. I guess Bird didn't make players like Ainge, Walton, Chris Ford, KC Jones, etc. better... Btw, Auerbach, Cousy, and Russell pretty much invented the fast breaking style of play.

    Back then, I think the game was played way different. Even farther back, the 3pt. line wasn't part of the game.
    Last I checked even the games were officiated differently.
    Whats your point? You think the Suns are as good as my old teams? Yet Bird has more MVP than Nash and more rings. Why is Nash even mentioned with players like that. Nash himself even said he doesn't deserve to be mentioned with thelikes of Bird.

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    By the way, Thomas called Dirk a "big ass pussy" before blowing the kiss, which was probably just foreshadowing his Finals' collapse.
    I thought it foreshadowed the 50 points Dirk dropped on his scrub ass the game after?

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    Suns don't have either of them anymore, so I don't see what your point is. I've never seen anyone get on a player who was with a team only 2 months more than you have regarding Tim Thomas. You must have a huge hard-on for him or something... I just can't figure it out.

    You sit here and act like those two guys were the faces of the organization... I rip on Terry/Dirk/Howard who are pretty much your "big 3" down there, so I don't understand the focus on guys no longer with the team. If you want me to, I can start talking about Flagrant "Pussy" McGee (Stackhouse) whose fake toughness act is getting old really quick. I guess he has a chip on his shoulder from sucking it up all these years. I could also rip on Adrian Griffin and his bull rubbing it in dunk at the end of the WCF last year and his bug-eyed elbowing of Marion in Game 5, but I don't because the two of them are inconsequential pieces of .

    By the way, Thomas called Dirk a "big ass pussy" before blowing the kiss, which was probably just foreshadowing his Finals' collapse.

    because I can rip on them. And all you'll do is sit back and .

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    And Stackhouse has more toughness in his toenail he clipped off yesterday than all the suns players combined.

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    I hope that is not the reason why he won 2 MVP. The Suns have more All-Stars than the Mavs. Does that mean the Suns All-Stars are not True All-Stars? Why is it that Nash leaves the Mavs for more cash and the Mavs get better and better after he leaves? If Dirk is not playing, do the Mavs suffer more than the Suns with out Nash? Nash only does his job on the offensive end and Dirk does the job on the offensive and defensive end. Just think if Nash had to play under Avery? Maybe that is why he left, he didn't want to play Defense. Why is Phoenix so good? Style of play.
    The Suns would struggle much more than w/o Nash than Dallas w/o Dirk. Amare & Marion get a big portion of their points off passes from Nash. The Sun's offensive system is great but it really leans on Nash's ability to get their players the ball in the right position to score and no is better at doing that right now than Nash.

    While Marion is a good defender & rebounder I think he'd really struggle scoring points w/o Nash. As I've said before, Marion is really not much of a factor late in playoff games when there's much more halfcourt offense being played.

    Amare would struggle early but I think he's talented enough to learn to play well on the offensive end without Nash.

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    because I can rip on them. And all you'll do is sit back and .
    Again - making no sense.

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    While Marion is a good defender & rebounder I think he'd really struggle scoring points w/o Nash. As I've said before, Marion is really not much of a factor late in playoff games when there's much more halfcourt offense being played.
    Wrong. Marion was a near 20-and-10 guy before Nash showed up... I don't think he'd have a problem, since he produces a good portion of his own offense on putbacks and jumpers.

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    Wrong. Marion was a near 20-and-10 guy before Nash showed up... I don't think he'd have a problem, since he produces a good portion of his own offense on putbacks and jumpers.
    If that's the case then why was he such a non-factor in their halfcourt offense late in games in the Mav series? Is it just against the Mavs? There were times in those games that I wasn't even sure he was in the game.

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    Wrong. Marion was a near 20-and-10 guy before Nash showed up... I don't think he'd have a problem, since he produces a good portion of his own offense on putbacks and jumpers.
    Yeah he was, but he's not as effective without Nash. He gets a lot of fast break opportunities. He's still a good player without Nash though.

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    If you want me to, I can start talking about Flagrant "Pussy" McGee (Stackhouse) whose fake toughness act is getting old really quick. I guess he has a chip on his shoulder from sucking it up all these years.
    Was Stackhouse sucking it up when he scored almost 30ppg in 00-01? Or was that before you started watching basketball? Also, Stackhouse is tougher than ANYONE, YES ANYONE, on that soft no defense suns team of yours. Except for maybe Stoudamire, he is one of few players on that roster without a vagina.

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    Again - making no sense.



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    Was Stackhouse sucking it up when he scored almost 30ppg in 00-01? Or was that before you started watching basketball? Also, Stackhouse is tougher than ANYONE, YES ANYONE, on that soft no defense suns team of yours. Except for maybe Stoudamire, he is one of few players on that roster without a vagina.
    No, he still sucked back then - he couldn't handle being second fiddle to Grant Hill or when he was coached by Doug Collins

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    No, he still sucked back then - he couldn't handle being second fiddle to Grant Hill or when he was coached by Doug Collins
    Stackhouse was and still is a big-browed pussy.

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