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    Rasho and Nazr reunited at last!




    ... ploto deserves it with this weak thread. I didn't see a thread when Rasho got benched earlier this season.

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    ... ploto deserves it with this weak thread. I didn't see a thread when Rasho got benched earlier this season.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    I didn't see a thread when Rasho got benched earlier this season.
    You actually didnt see anything after he played patheticly vs the Spurs back on the 5th of November

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    Rasho did not play 2 games early in the season when Sam himself said he was trying to figure out combinations of players and the team iden y with a team with 9 new players. Since then Sam has said that he plans to start Rasho the rest of the season-- something he did anticipate at he beginning of the season. Nazr, on the other hand, was handed the starting job and he has lost it and could possibly be spending many games sitting on the bench entirely.

    Looking at a box score does not tell you the entire value of a player. If you have ever watched the Raptors play, you would see how much they have improved defensively, and coaches and players alike credit Rasho with a great deal of the reason for that improvement. He has been appreciated by Bargnani and Slokar and other Euros for his willingness to help them in their adjustments to the NBA. Sam Mitc has done nothing but praise the type of player and person that Rasho is. It IS a vast contrast to Nazr who is STILL griping to the media about his playing time.

    Nesterovic at centre of Raptor uprising

    You wouldn't normally think of Rasho Nesterovic as a yappy young man.

    A good-natured, bright, rather unassuming guy? Yeah. A mouthy, talkative, demonstrative fellow? Not so much.

    Yet the reason behind the sudden arrival of defensive consistency for the Raptors, an effort that's holding teams to a respectable field-goal percentage and actually winning games, can be attributed in large part to the verbal skills of the veteran centre.

    As the last line of what has been a normally shaky defence, Nesterovic's abilities as a traffic cop and commentator are allowing him to play the best he's played since joining the Raptors this season.


    "It's just positioning yourself and talking a lot so everyone's on the same page," said Nesterovic. "If you're the last line, you can see everything so you can help the small guys, positioning them a bit. (It's seeing) screens, cuts or whatever, because you can see everything. They can't see everything."

    In the two-game winning streak the Raptors take into this afternoon's home game against Golden State — for a 9-14 team, two consecutive victories cons utes a streak — Nesterovic has anchored a defence that's held Orlando and New Jersey both below 40 per cent efficiency from the field and below 85 points.

    The 7-footer played 38 minutes with 12 points, five rebounds against the Nets after logging a season-high 40 minutes with 10 points, seven boards and five blocks against Orlando.

    "He's getting his confidence back up," said power forward Chris Bosh, who's been able to watch Nesterovic the last two games as he nurses a sore left knee. "He's shooting the ball well but most importantly he's anchoring that defence.

    "He talks a lot in the background, he blocks shots, he can really guard the other big guys. He's just a good overall solid player for us."

    What Nesterovic has been providing is something Raptors haven't had in years, a big body capable of defending other centres one-on-one. Against New Jersey, the Raptors didn't have to worry about helping on Nenad Krstic, which allowed them to stay with shooters like Vince Carter, Antoine Wright and Marcus Williams on the perimeter.

    Against Orlando, the Raptors were able to leave Nesterovic alone on Dwight Howard whenever spot-up shooters Travis Diener and J.J. Re were on the court.

    That helped the Raptors limit their perimeter liability on defence, a chronic sore spot with the franchise.

    "Everybody's been on the same page, everyone knows what's going on," said Nesterovic. "It's not one guy doing this, the other guy doing that. Everybody knows this is what we're doing and we stick to the plan no matter what."

    That Nesterovic can log the minutes he has in the last two games has been a huge boost to a team missing its best frontcourt performer in Bosh. Instead of having to parcel out a few minutes to the shorter, more shot-happy Kris Humphries or the raw Uros Slokar, Mitc has been able to ride the 30-year-old Nesterovic.

    "He's doing the job we brought him here for," said Bosh.

    http://www.thestar.com/NBA/article/160471
    The Raptors are really happy with Rasho and he is very happy there. His minutes will never be huge with everyone healthy because they have Bosh, Bargnani, Garbajosa and Rasho- arguably a better group than the Spurs big men. Bosh is actually a better offensive player and rebounder than Tim now and Garbo is better than Oberto. And Andrea, he is a stud in the making.

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    There you have it.

    Raptors > Spurs

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    His minutes will never be huge with everyone healthy because they have Bosh, Bargnani, Garbajosa and Rasho- arguably a better group than the Spurs big men.
    I wouldn't trade an injured Tim Duncan for those four players and the Raptors next five first round picks. Bosh is so good he can't lead the team to a .500 record while playing in the worst division in sports history.

    Oh and nice job posting a month old article to backup a point that no one cares to discuss anymore. I so hope that Nazr gets traded to the Raptors

    Bottomline is the Spurs dumped Rasho's contract and got back Bonner, who is a better bigman to go against the likes of the Mavs and the Suns.

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    Bosh is actually a better offensive player and rebounder than Tim now


    Duncan has a better rebound rate and a higher field goal percentage. Oh, and he actually plays on the block. Bosh is Dirk Nowitzki with less range - another jumpshooting/slashing 7 foot small forward.

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    I so hope that Nazr gets traded to the Raptors
    Sorry, Raptors have no interest in Nazr.

    As for Bonner, he sure has helped the Spurs beat Dallas hasn't he.

    And I see no problem with an article from a month ago. People came in and said that Rasho is doing nothing for the Raptors but he is and Spurs fans are just mad because their record and their defense sucks compared to when Rasho was here.

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    Do you prefer an article from this week?

    "He's given us more offensively than what we expected but it's his defence and his rebounding, presence on the court. He just knows how to play."


    http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/169283

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    Yeah, and if the Spurs had kept Rasho their record would be what?

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    Do you prefer an article from this week?

    "He's given us more offensively than what we expected but it's his defence and his rebounding, presence on the court. He just knows how to play."
    I'd prefer that they could spell defense.

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    I'd prefer that they could spell defense.
    Actually defence is the proper english spelling of the word...

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    Yeah, and if the Spurs had kept Rasho their record would be what?
    Well, let's see. The Spurs got rid of 3 players from their 12 man roster-- NVE, Nazr, and Rasho. NVE was pretty useless so he and Vaughn aren't much to compare. That leaves exchanging Rasho and Nazr for Elson and Bonner. Last season the Spurs were 40-10 in February. What will their record be after 50 games this season?

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    I'd prefer that they could spell defense.
    Please, tell me that you are not really this ignorant.

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    Actually defence is the proper english spelling of the word...
    Not how I learned it.

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    Not how I learned it.
    You're American.

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    Please, tell me that you are not really this ignorant.
    Funny, a lot of us say the same thing about your one-track posts.

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    i'm just waiting for furryspurry to pop back in!

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    Not how I learned it.
    Gee, you really are.

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    Please, tell me that you are not really this ignorant.
    Please tell me you can just let this go. Rasho isn't a Spur anymore. He's obviously gone to a team where he can do better and he's appreciated more, but it's more important to you to come in here and tell us how stupid the Spurs were to let him go. Bask in his Raptor limelight and stfu.

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    Oh well, guess I hit a nerve. Who'd have guessed it when all I did was post a little article about Nazr.

    Spurs fans sure are in bad moods this season. Wonder why?

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    Oh well, guess I hit a nerve. Who'd have guessed it when all I did was post a little article about Nazr.

    Spurs fans sure are in bad moods this season. Wonder why?
    Spurs Record 26-11
    Raptors Record 17-20

    Can't think of a reason. I guess you're right though. You did hit a nerve. Mainly because you're ing annoying with just about anything you say.

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    Well, let's see. The Spurs got rid of 3 players from their 12 man roster-- NVE, Nazr, and Rasho. NVE was pretty useless so he and Vaughn aren't much to compare. That leaves exchanging Rasho and Nazr for Elson and Bonner. Last season the Spurs were 40-10 in February. What will their record be after 50 games this season?
    How many championships did the Spurs win last year?

    They are off to a better start than both 2003 and 1999.

    Try again.

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    Do you prefer an article from this week?

    "He's given us more offensively than what we expected but it's his defence and his rebounding, presence on the court. He just knows how to play."


    http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/169283
    That's called trying to save your job. The only way Mike Iavaroni isn't the coach next year is if the Raptors by some miracle make the playoffs AND Sam Mitc kisses azz.

    And why not post the link to where Pop said Rasho was the second best center in the league and how he loved him. Shouldn't be too hard to find. I think it was the day before the Spurs traded for Nazr

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    How many championships did the Spurs win last year?

    They are off to a better start than both 2003 and 1999.

    Try again.
    As many as they will this year with Pop.

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