american idol sucks (thread)

[King]

In all fairness, JGW talks like every single guy has ever talked. And the funny thing is, he actually believes what he says. That he's going to call all the shots, and that's just how it's going to be.

Your argument isn't new. It's what we all believed at one point. And you'll continue to talk your big game right up until the minute you're sitting on the couch watching American Idol or Grey's Anatomy.

But it's going to change - it's out of your hands. You know it, I know it, and every woman in here knows it. Resistance is futile.

[johngateswhiteley]

In all fairness, JGW talks like every single guy has ever talked. And the funny thing is, he actually believes what he says. That he's going to call all the shots, and that's just how it's going to be.

Your argument isn't new. It's what we all believed at one point. And you'll continue to talk your big game right up until the minute you're sitting on the couch watching American Idol or Grey's Anatomy.

But it's going to change - it's out of your hands. You know it, I know it, and every woman in here knows it. Resistance is futile.

i completely understand why you'd say that, but whats keeping you from believing...is you don't know nor have you ever met me.

1. i don't believe i am going to call all the shots
2. its not out of my hands
3. any guy that believes this , is a pussy

i think most guys are pussies nowadays, they let women control them and have no idea what a 50/50 relationship is. in fact a 50/50 relationship probably seems like 75/25 to most people...its such an old concept. if you feel i am doomed in relationships...fine, i know i'm not. i'm looking for a girl thats hot, strong, sweet, and independent. there's plenty...in fact i already let 2 get away...

[SpursWoman]

i completely understand why you'd say that, but whats keeping you from believing...is you don't know nor have you ever met me.

1. i don't believe i am going to call all the shots
2. its not out of my hands
3. any guy that believes this , is a pussy

i think most guys are pussies nowadays, they let women control them and have no idea what a 50/50 relationship is. in fact a 50/50 relationship probably seems like 75/25 to most people...its such an old concept. if you feel i am doomed in relationships...fine, i know i'm not. i'm looking for a girl thats hot, strong, sweet, and independent. there's plenty...in fact i already let 2 get away...

If by pussy you mean not quite so selfish, self-centered, egotistical and chauvinistic ... then thank God.

[Mijo]

To be honest, I hated the wife's shows at first but now after watching a few I developed a liking for some of them and she has done the same for me. It's not like we have to compromise to watch shows we each like anymore. I've grown on her and she's done the same for me. She likes basketball, football, and boxing and well I've learned to enjoy watching (some) reality tv and shows like Grey's Anatomy and Desperate Housewives.

[Extra Stout]

i completely understand why you'd say that, but whats keeping you from believing...is you don't know nor have you ever met me.

1. i don't believe i am going to call all the shots
2. its not out of my hands
3. any guy that believes this , is a pussy

i think most guys are pussies nowadays, they let women control them and have no idea what a 50/50 relationship is. in fact a 50/50 relationship probably seems like 75/25 to most people...its such an old concept. if you feel i am doomed in relationships...fine, i know i'm not. i'm looking for a girl thats hot, strong, sweet, and independent. there's plenty...in fact i already let 2 get away...

Yeah, good luck with that. Really, you just have no idea.

Between college football on Saturday, NFL on Sunday, and the Spurs once or twice a week, I'm getting enough of my own programming that in order to approach 50/50 I'm tied down to a whole lot of Grey's Anatomy, Food Network, and TLC.

At least we both like 24 and Lost.

[johngateswhiteley]

If by pussy you mean not quite so selfish, self-centered, egotistical and chauvinistic ... then thank God.

...heh, we meet again. whats funny, if we met, you'd love me. never met a girl who didn't...and i don't mean you'd want to date me, you might, but you'd like me as a person. i'm likable...

1. am i selfish...perhaps a little, but thats necessary
2. self-centered...in a positive way, yes. i am independent
3. egotistical...i do care very much about others and my would be significant other
4. i don't believe men are better than women...quite the contrary, this entire argument proves that. i'd be surprised if you didn't see that

i find it interesting that you might come to some of these conclusions, about me. however, i do take some of them as compliments.

[SpursWoman]

Although you do come across as pretty self-centered in this thread, I learned not judge people from forums...I've met most of the forum jackasses, and all but about 1 are actually nice in person.

I actually was thinking in general ... like before men have allegedly become pussies ... when men were men, they wore the pants, etc., etc.

[johngateswhiteley]

Yeah, good luck with that. Really, you just have no idea.

Between college football on Saturday, NFL on Sunday, and the Spurs once or twice a week, I'm getting enough of my own programming that in order to approach 50/50 I'm tied down to a whole lot of Grey's Anatomy, Food Network, and TLC.

At least we both like 24 and Lost.

who says she has to watch CFB, NFL, and NBA with you? unless she wants to...and why the do you have to sit there and watch her shows with her? you can't:

1. go for hike
2. read a book
3. ride a bike
4. go for a drive
5. drink a brew
6. hang out with friends
7. play a board game
8. see a movie
9. do some work
10. workout
11. cook...whatever

[johngateswhiteley]

Although you do come across as pretty self-centered in this thread, I learned not judge people from forums...I've met most of the forum jackasses, and all but about 1 are actually nice in person.

I actually was thinking in general ... like before men have allegedly become pussies ... when men were men, they wore the pants, etc., etc.

how do i come across as self-centered...in a bad way that is? i don't see it. btw, i don't believe all that women should be home with the kids all the time, in kitchen, or whatever stuff...just for the record.

[MannyIsGod]

Interesting thread. Not what I expected when I opened it.

I'm not married but considering we live together...

Jess and I tend to like the same shows. I think there are a couple of shows she likes that I do, such as Gray's Anatomy (I just can't get into that ). She also didn't like Hero's at first, but I believe she's started to like that. We end up watching stuff like 24 together because we both like it, but we don't ever make each other watch something with the other. Thats weird to me. When it comes to movies we like some of the same movies but Jess likes way more movies than me and she watches them by herself. She'll even go to the movies by herself as opposed to subjecting me to some crap I don't want to see.

Women that force their boyfriends/husbands to watch they don't want to watch are mean.

[johngateswhiteley]

Interesting thread. Not what I expected when I opened it.

I'm not married but considering we live together...

Jess and I tend to like the same shows. I think there are a couple of shows she likes that I do, such as Gray's Anatomy (I just can't get into that ). She also didn't like Hero's at first, but I believe she's started to like that. We end up watching stuff like 24 together because we both like it, but we don't ever make each other watch something with the other. Thats weird to me. When it comes to movies we like some of the same movies but Jess likes way more movies than me and she watches them by herself. She'll even go to the movies by herself as opposed to subjecting me to some crap I don't want to see.

Women that force their boyfriends/husbands to watch they don't want to watch are mean.

outstanding Manny...simply outstanding. i am surprised how much we tend to agree. in any case, your relationship is what i am talking about...you each have your own things. and this does parallel many other relationship issues...as well.

[Spurminator]

I watch most of "my" shows (24, The Office, Friday Night Lights, South Park) after my wife goes to bed, which is usually around 9:00. When she watches "her" shows (American Idol, any fashion show, Big Brother, Desperate Housewives), I'm usually on the computer.

She doesn't mind watching sports with me, except baseball. And we have several shows we both like (Lost, Heroes, Earl, and *preparing for onslaught* Ugly Betty).

[johngateswhiteley]

I watch most of "my" shows (24, The Office, Friday Night Lights, South Park) after my wife goes to bed, which is usually around 9:00. When she watches "her" shows (American Idol, any fashion show, Big Brother, Desperate Housewives), I'm usually on the computer.

She doesn't mind watching sports with me, except baseball. And we have several shows we both like (Lost, Heroes, Earl, and *preparing for onslaught* Ugly Betty).

while your taste in shows may be questionable... , this is another great example of good stuff.

[MannyIsGod]

Ugly Betty is pretty decent. I watch it now. Its funny.

Oh, and boyfriends/husbands that make their GFs watch sports are not only mean, but really ing stupid. WHY MAN, WHY?

[Marklar MM]

men. I watch the girl shows just to be with her. . I have to watch A Walk to Remember tomorrow.

[johngateswhiteley]

men. I watch the girl shows just to be with her. . I have to watch A Walk to Remember tomorrow.

well, thats your choice and your life...i don't have to understand it, even though i don't. seems to me there are lots of other opportunities to spend time together.

anyway, i don't even watch tv shows...don't like any of them. i'll watch a few sitcoms here and there (that 70's show, Seinfeld, Cheers, some random comedy central) but i am not watching anything weekly other than my meat and potatoes (sports and movies).

[johngateswhiteley]

btw, that new old e commercial with the guy in the locker room holding the bball....is hilarious.

[johnsmith]

Television shows that you don't want to watch and your girlfriend/fiance/wife does want to watch, is why xbox was invented.........that's my solution.

It works like a charm.

Me: What do you want to do?
Her: I want to watch my TIVO'd Oprah.
Me: Hmmmm, I don't really want to watch that, I'm going to go upstairs and play Xbox.
Her: Great, then I'll watch my show.

There, now I'm a big sweetie for letting her watch her show on the bigger TV downstairs and I get to take the Broncos to yet another super bowl on Madden.

I'm awesome.

[SpursWoman]

We don't watch anything regularly other than Discovery Channel(s) shows, and we both like those ... or movies or sports. I usually let him pick whatever else because 99% of the time I'll enjoy it regardless. That, and he can look at the TW guide and find something, whereas I'll look at the guide all night and not find .

And he'll watch the first few episodes of American Idol with me, because the auditions are funny ... but after that he can usually be found on the computer. And if I try to talk to him about it, he'll just smile and nod like he GAF about it, just to humor me. And I love him for that.

I wouldn't make him watch anything with me that he didn't want to ... but if he did anyway, I wouldn't think he was a pussy ... he's just more likely to get some pussy. Because cuddling on the couch happens to turn me on, whatever we're watching. Spending the evening in 2 separate rooms just doesn't have the same effect, you know?

[johngateswhiteley]

Television shows that you don't want to watch and your girlfriend/fiance/wife does want to watch, is why xbox was invented.........that's my solution.

It works like a charm.

Me: What do you want to do?
Her: I want to watch my TIVO'd Oprah.
Me: Hmmmm, I don't really want to watch that, I'm going to go upstairs and play Xbox.
Her: Great, then I'll watch my show.

There, now I'm a big sweetie for letting her watch her show on the bigger TV downstairs and I get to take the Broncos to yet another super bowl on Madden.

I'm awesome.

[johngateswhiteley]

We don't watch anything regularly other than Discovery Channel(s) shows, and we both like those ... or movies or sports. I usually let him pick whatever else because 99% of the time I'll enjoy it regardless. That, and he can look at the TW guide and find something, whereas I'll look at the guide all night and not find .

And he'll watch the first few episodes of American Idol with me, because the auditions are funny ... but after that he can usually be found on the computer. And if I try to talk to him about it, he'll just smile and nod like he GAF about it, just to humor me. And I love him for that.

I wouldn't make him watch anything with me that he didn't want to ... but if he did anyway, I wouldn't think he was a pussy ... he's just more likely to get some pussy. Because cuddling on the couch happens to turn me on, whatever we're watching. Spending the evening in 2 separate rooms just doesn't have the same effect, you know?

1. happy for you 2
2. nobody says you can't spend the evening together just cause you watched a show seperately

[mookie2001]

well jgw i agree- american idol sucks

[johngateswhiteley]

...still sucks.

[mookie2001]

jgw makes some good points, as a note- in the past spurswoman and others have often dismissed persons without families and children

[johngateswhiteley]

jgw makes some good points, as a note- in the past spurswoman and others have often dismissed persons without families and children

what do you mean?