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I like to be thorough in my pwnage so yes, I was looking up stats. I thought you were going to sleep? I see that was just for *effect*
Umm, I know you were in here when I posted the response so where did you go?
You played with Yao and Tracy IN PHOENIX, where your team has a very impressive record, 18-4. The Rockets too have a pretty damn good home record IN HOUSTON, 13-4. The haven't played as many games at home as the Suns have but they both have the same number of losses which is what's important at home, minimize the losses at home. LOTS of your fellow Suns fans like to point out that your team wasn't gelling in the first two weeks or so of the season for SEVERAL reasons. Same could be said for the Mavericks who lost in Houston, not Dallas, where we pwn and lost the first four games of the season, not just to the Rockets...an aberration on the Mavs' season as a whole? Most likely. Your last point about T-Mac taking all the shots in the last game? Yes he did, and that's probably why the spread was only 13 points, which btw, for most teams would be a big win. Rockets took 75 field goals as opposed to the 89 shots taken in the Suns game...the breakdown?Ponky and SCLakeshow:
We played the Rockets with Yao and Tracy earlier in the year and beat them. What is your excuse for getting blown out by the Rockets with both Yao and Tracy playing. And a funny stat against both of your teams is that Tracy only scored eight points against both of your teams but both of your teams were blown out (though Mavs were blown out by thirty-one points). So, I think it is safe to say that the Suns were not excited about playing the Rockets without both of their best players. Not a good habit that I would endorse but it would explain them having to fight harder than usual against the Rockets in that game. Ponky, when the Rockets played you last, Tracy basically took most of the shots thus alienating most of his team and making them bystanders and eventually he wore out ( much like Kobe has done in the past), yet you only beat them by thirteen points, so no great accomplishment. So, your point makes no sense. By the way, I am no rookie to the game of basket either.
Juwan Howard: 11 FGA against the Mavs, 10 FGA against the Suns
Luther Head: 10 FGA against the Mavs, 12 FA against the Suns
Shane Battier: 7 FGA against the Mavs, 12 FGA against the Suns
here's where you're right:
Rafer Alston: 10 FGA against the Mavs, 25 FGA against the Suns
here's where you're wrong about T-Mac:
John Lucas: 4 FGA against the Mavs (6 min), TEN (2-10) FGAs against the Suns (20 min)
Lucas' season stats? 2006-07 Statistics
PPG
4.1
RPG
1.20
APG
0.8
To whom do you think those shots plus some of the extra 89 FGAs would've gone to had Lucas not played and T-Mac had? Remember, the Rockets shot 89 FGAs against the Suns as opposed to 75 against the Mavericks so there were Lucas' ten shots and minutes plus some to go around without even touching the other player's FGA numbers.
Last edited by ponky; 01-20-2007 at 02:17 AM. Reason: corrected a name
I like to be thorough in my pwnage so yes, I was looking up stats. I thought you were going to sleep? I see that was just for *effect*
Umm, I know you were in here when I posted the response so where did you go?
take it easy on suns fans ponky they are almost as fragile as mavs fans......
Is this ClubLakers? If I wanted some homer B.S. then I would go to one of those bull sites.^^Right, have you ever been to the site ClubLakers.com? From some of the threads on there you would have thought they had won the championship already!I know a Suns fan started this thread but I think his intention was to see which team would lose first since they both only have eight losses. Not sure, you will have to ask him. I think our team is very good but has faults like all teams do. All of us won't know who is better until the playoffs start and then the real games begin.
haha, that's rough. alright, i'm off to eat some dinner and get some work done, have a good night fillmoe!
eidt: i'll still be here though...my work involves my laptop!
dinner this late = bad dieting.......
not when i go to sleep around 5 AM...i work out an hour each day so it's cool
Are you a vampire or what?
even worse.... shes a mavs fan
nah, i'm a student with very few classes in my semester of law school that i don't really have to attend and i'm also a web designer so my work is at home. i'm just finishing law school to appease my parents, i'm sticking with web design because i like my schedule and i'll maybe do soem PI work if it's not early in the morning!
Well we havn't met the Mavs in the playoffs that I can remember, so I havn't built any hate for them yet. But I have a feeling from reading a bunch of these posts from Mavs fans, that might have to change.
law school?
you single?
Cool. I thought of going into law and took some law classes at the local JC. I really enjoyed it, very interesting stuff. Difficult but interesting. JC is a joke compared to law school so I can imagine how busy you must be. No wonder you don't sleep.
haha no, i have a mavs fan man to feed, he's a musician
..... you woulda made me sign a prenup anyway...........
only the first year was hard, i transferred from a school in nyc. third year is a breeze. the material is interesting but can be boring, the students were not that cool though. i found a group in nyc and a group at u.t. that i like but most of the students are uptight and disinterested in most other things. i'm a classical musician as well so i hang with that crowd
Yeah, the law school kids at UT suck balls
I dont know if you know this but they're kinda a big deal.
haha, Nashfan, way to respond buddy, especially after all the drama last night.
To make this real simple, let's assume that McGrady did play us on Jan. 17 and the minutes were divided up exactly the same as in your game against them on Jan. 16. Let's further assume that McGrady's point production was the same, in fact let's assume that the Rockets total score was ninety-six points against us. They still would have lost by four points to the Suns. Now before you say, "But you let them shoot eighty-nine times not seventy-five times, so you would have to allow for a few more points being scored." I would have to respond that even taking fourteen more shots against us than in your game with them they would have made only one more basket. I arrive at this because when we played the Rockets on Nov. 29 we held the combination of McGrady and Yao to a total of only 15 made field goals out of 37 attempts, significantly below McGrady's production in your last game against the Rockets. Interestingly, in both the Suns games against the Rockets we allowed them to attempt eighty-nine shots. On January 17 the Rockets made thirty-five shots for a field goal percentage of 39.3%, and for the November 29 game they made thirty-four shots for a field goal percentage of 38.2%. Noticing another fact, the Rockets made thirty-four shots against the Mavs but their field goal percentage was 45.3%. It doesn't seem to matter who is in the Rockets lineup against us, we consistently hold them to a much lower field goal percentage than the Mavs.
Last edited by Nashfan; 01-20-2007 at 11:50 PM. Reason: wrong dates for January
I have a life unlike you it seems and was busy all day today so my response was a little late.
How about regular updates about what you're wearing miss lawyer?
lol I might hit it. Don't know.
Last edited by mavsfan1000; 01-20-2007 at 11:51 PM.
This post is pure gold. Unfortunately, you included statistics, which every Mavs fan on this forum will tell you it means nothing. Unless, of course, by "statistic" they mean 0-3 against SA and Dallas.To make this real simple, let's assume that McGrady did play us on Jan. 17 and the minutes were divided up exactly the same as in your game against them on Jan. 16. Let's further assume that McGrady's point production was the same, in fact let's assume that the Rockets total score was ninety-six points against us. They still would have lost by four points to the Suns. Now before you say, "But you let them shoot eighty-nine times not seventy-five times, so you would have to allow for a few more points being scored." I would have to respond that even taking fourteen more shots against us than in your game with them they would have made only one more basket. I arrive at this because when we played the Rockets on Nov. 29 we held the combination of McGrady and Yao to a total of only 15 made field goals out of 37 attempts, significantly below McGrady's production in your last game against the Rockets. Interestingly, in both the Suns games against the Rockets we allowed them to attempt eighty-nine shots. On January 17 the Rockets made thirty-five shots for a field goal percentage of 39.3%, and for the November 29 game they made thirty-four shots for a field goal percentage of 38.2%. Noticing another fact, the Rockets made thirty-four shots against the Mavs but their field goal percentage was 45.3%. It doesn't seem to matter who is in the Rockets lineup against us, we consistently hold them to a much lower field goal percentage than the Mavs.
They also ignore the fact that the Suns could have beat a Denver team that didn't have AI, Andre Miller, Melo, JR Smith and, therefore, be .5 GB Dallas for the best record in the NBA.
I also realized that 0-3 against SA/Dallas doesn't mean because in the event of a tie, the league doesn't use head-to-head matchups to see which team gets the #1 seed. It's actually based on the teams' looks and we all know Josh Howard (with retainer), Devean George, Dirk, Erika, Harris, Diop, MBenga, and Caveman are the ugliest players in the league, so the Suns win that in a landslide. Oh, wait... I was wrong, the league bases it on stats like conference record... it's so weird the league would use statistics to make a decision.
The irony of Mavs fans is when they blast D'Antoni for his short rotation and coaching on "court chemistry" and then equally blast any Suns fan that uses stats to back up an argument.
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