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OMG, there are two of them?
Andrei Kirilenko is apparently on the block.
Just saying.
OMG, there are two of them?
Another guy making too much money, but ability-wise would be a perfect fit for the Spurs.
47's contract is , but a front line of AK, Timmy and Elson would be super sweet....
Yeah, for the 20 games a year where AK is healthy.
I thought about another possibility. If Indy wants to get rid of Dunleavy because of the bad contract the Spurs could try to make it a 3 team deal:
Indiana: Barry/ Udrih (they need good shooters an a backup PG; get rid of Dunleavys contract)
Clippers: Dunleavy/ McLeod (get rid of Maggette for Dunleavy)
Spurs: Maggette (for obvious reasons)
This is interesting, though I would've thought if the Clippers wanted to get in on the two-team trade reported yesterday they probably could have. Mikey Sr. wants junior, but apparently the Clippers FO isn't sold on him, or his contract.
It's a good idea though....
EDIT: Indy would probably want a pick from someone though.
Isn't Dunleavy under the same restrictions as SJax, i.e., he can't be traded for in a package deal?
That is a thing I was wondering about. I am not sure which restrictions they have. It will be interesting to see what happens...
No....b/c I said so
Total buzzkill.
Honestly, my thoughts are that the Spurs will get to a point where they don't mind sacraficing a pick (even 1st round) to get Corey. If they get Maggette, I don't think I'd be pissed anymore about giving a pick as well. The Spurs losing has slowly changed my mind, I just hope the Spurs are warming to the idea too.
It sounds like Indiana is very serious about getting Maggette and the Clips just might be happy with Dunleavy. The 8-player trade yesterday makes a lot more sense if this was planned out ahead of time. It gives the Pacers their starting SG; otherwise they'd be starting Dunleavy out of position. Plus it lets Maggs start and isn't as bad salary-wise for them. The more I look at it the more I think this was the plan all along.
Yes, anyone that's traded can only be traded again alone within the first two months. He can't be traded in a package.
Corey Maggette for Mike Dunleavy works perfectly under the CBA.
Isn't Dunleavy a "base-year" compensation player? That would mean his salary still only counts like $2M against the cap and raises next year to $10M or whatever rediculous amount the pacers are now going to pay him. Am I wrong?
If not, then a swap of Maggette for Dunleavy wouldn't work.
Not that I know of. My understanding is the Dunleavy for Maggette swap works perfectly. And it seems very likely; yesterday's trade makes it look more obvious for the Pacers. I still don't know that Sterling wants that contract, but it's really not hideous, just long.
Interesting deal even if you should remove McLeod becuase Dunleavy can't be packaged.
You're right, Pacers really need shooters. If they trade Dunleavy for Maggette, they will become the worst shooting team in the league. I cna see them being more interested in Barry + incentives than Maggette
Thanks! This deal also works if you remove McLeod. I think the Pacers would want a Pick from either Spurs or Clippers to make it happen. I wonder if the Clippers really want Dunleavys contract. But it would make some sense imo...
I thought of reality. The Clips could just do Maggette for Dunleavy, which is what both of them want.
They've got the same restriction anyone else has. This was covered last night.
By the way, can't wait to watch Beno and Barry get lit up and build a house of bricks in the playoffs. Pop is an awesome GM. No one can build a better senior citizen's team in the league. And he's even throwing a bone to the white folk.
Pretty much. I understand that everyone is riding Maggette's jock cause he's athletic and a good slasher, but I'm still not convinced that he'll be the answer to all our problems.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with giving up Brent and Beno, and even the 1st rounder, that said, I think Maggette is fools gold. One of the biggest problems so far this year has been our inability to defend the perimeter. I don't think Maggette solves that. He adds another scorer to a team that already has two good perimeter scorers, and he is a horrible defensive player and has been a horrible shooter this year. The main benefit of Maggette would be that he allows us to be more effective in small ball because he can rebound and play the 4, but I'd rather we never play small ball in the first place, so I can't really see it as a great benefit.
I don't know, I think that this team would be better served by getting a backup point and waiting for everyone to get healthy, and cut the swing man rotation to 3 players rather than constantly shuffling four so that no one gets into any type of rhythm.
Plan B had better be bonkers...
It's ignorant to look for a magic bullet to solve all of our problems.
But the fact is, Maggette addresses all of them but backup PG:
* Younger, athletic perimeter player who can be groomed as the Bowen replacement and help out on the wing
* Rebounding problems. Maggette's one of the best rebounding guards in the league, and would be #2 in rebounds on our team the moment he joined the roster
* Late in games can get into the lane and get to the FT line. And when he gets there he's a very good shooter
* Has some swagger. Let's face it. Our geriatric perimeter players don't bring any to this squad, Maggette's got some of that fire for the game that we used to see in Buckets.
The failure of this front office to address the perimeter with something other than senior citizen retreads on the down sloap of their careers is the greatest failure of this front office for what is now the third season running.
sometimes a good defense is a good offense. essentially we're playing 3 on 5 because bruce and the center spot doesn't give us anything. the elite teams have scoring options at 4 positions...we need something similar to combat this. that way one of their scorers can't rest on d.
lock down, drag out d has been made obsolete with the new rules which favors slashers. i think maggs would have been perfect because he has the size to hold his position in the post. bowen's lil wiry ass gets tossed around down there like a rag doll so he's never in a good position to rebound. i really think maggs would help this team. apparently the FO is knows more about this than me so take what i said with a grain of salt
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