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    How old is Jackson now? Probably 30 . I'd still like to have him back. That would move Gino to the bench, get rid of Finley/Barry/Beno/whoeverelse, and at least give us an athletic guard/forward. The Spurs still need a better big man, either that or teach Oberto how to jump high and swat a shot. On second thought, I'll go with a better big man.

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    Personally, I don't believe the Spurs ever had a chance to pull the trigger. The most I read was that the offer would intrigue the Clips, but it was never anything more than that. I don't know why it annoys me so much when Spurs fans complain about the Spurs not going after players like Jax because the front office is cheap.

    To me, thats like saying that AHF doesn't screw Salma Hayek because he's a prude when in reality its because she won't give him the time of day. Teams value players differently than you and I do, and there are lots of different factors that come into play. And then you factor in that the Spurs seem to be a far more secretive franchise than most, and I believe that the vast majority of the time we as fans end up pulling out of our asses or trying to read into every thing that Pop says. Pop isn't speaking in code through the media to the fans just to keep us informed of front office operations so there isn't any need to read into "cryptic" comments or to look deep down into what they say. There isn't anything there.

    Of course, this is all just speculation on my part as well, so whatever.

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    How old is Jackson now? Probably 30
    he's 28; he'll turn 29 April 5th.

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    Spurs need to get Stephen Jackson back to SA

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    To me, thats like saying that AHF doesn't screw Salma Hayek because he's a prude when in reality its because she won't give him the time of day.
    Low blow Manny... I'd screw Salma eight ways from Sunday.

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    I would love to have Pietrus... anyone from Golden State will make me happy exept of course Dunleavy

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    Low blow Manny... I'd screw Salma eight ways from Sunday.
    Have to be with a strap-on.

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    Have to be with a strap-on.
    That's not what your girlfriend said.

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    That's not what your girlfriend said.
    I'm married, dip .

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    Wife/gf/whatever.

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    I would love to have Pietrus... anyone from Golden State will make me happy exept of course Dunleavy
    Dunleavy isn't in GS anymore. Try to keep up.

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    Nah. You have the person wrong, then. It might have been a dude at a truckstop. Did "she" have a ?

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    You shouldn't talk about your wife like that.

    By the way, props for jumping into a conversation between Manny and I. I know it must hurt, what with you putting Javtokas up on a pedestal like you did last summer to no avail

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    This little verbal slap fight is somewhat entertaining I must say

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    The supposed trade offer wasn't even that.

    The Clippers were smart enough to hold out than getting those two stiffs.

    If anyone thinks it was the Spurs that held up the deal, then I don't what to say, other than they are 100% wrong.

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    http://www.latimes.com/sports/printe...ines-pe-sports

    No deal imminent involving Maggette

    By Jason Reid, Times Staff Writer
    January 19, 2007


    General Manager Elgin Baylor recently said the Clippers had ended discussions about a proposed trade that would have sent Corey Maggette to the Sacramento Kings for forward Ron Artest.

    Although the Clippers might move Maggette, whose agent has requested a trade, before the Feb. 22 trading deadline, no potential deals are considered imminent, team sources said Thursday.

    Many teams are interested in Maggette, sources said, but the Clippers have not received what they consider acceptable offers. Maggette averaged at least 20 points in the 2003-04 and 2004-05 seasons and has a cap-friendly salary of $7 million a season through the 2008-09 season, so the Clippers would want to receive much for him.

    Moreover, owner Donald T. Sterling's feelings about Maggette could present another hurdle.

    Maggette has been among Sterling's favorite players since Baylor acquired the 6-foot-6, 225-pound wing player from the Orlando Magic after his rookie season.

    Sterling probably would have permitted Baylor to trade Maggette for a player the caliber of Artest, but the basketball-operations staff might have more difficulty in persuading Sterling to move Maggette for many other players.

    The Clippers might have two first-round picks (theirs and Minnesota's from the Sam Cassell trade) in the June draft, so they could wait until the summer to package Maggette with a pick in a bigger deal.


    Stay tuned.

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    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...701190443/1088


    Pacers notebook
    Pacers not looking for another deal
    Walsh says he doesn't plan to swap Dunleavy, who came from Warriors in trade

    By Mike Wells and Mark Montieth


    MIAMI -- The news of the Indiana Pacers' trade with Golden State had barely reached all corners of the NBA on Wednesday when a rumor began spreading: The Pacers were planning to send Mike Dunleavy Jr. to the Los Angeles Clippers for Corey Maggette.

    "Absolutely untrue," Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh said Thursday.


    Walsh had just gotten off the phone with Dunleavy's father, Mike Sr., who coaches the Clippers. Their conversation wasn't about a trade; it was about how to get the most out of a player who was often regarded as a disappointment in his five seasons with Golden State.
    "I talked to Indiana today for 45 minutes and there was no talk of any kind of deal," the elder Dunleavy told Los Angeles-area reporters. "He's there because they want him there.

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    I haven't heard Maggette say he wants to be traded recently. For a while there he was saying it just about everyday.

    If the Clippers were smart, they'd wait for a big offer.

    We'll see.

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    what makes Sjax even more interesting is that it wouldn't take much time to get him into the system. It have changed a bit but he already knows the basis.

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    what makes Sjax even more interesting is that it wouldn't take much time to get him into the system. It have changed a bit but he already knows the basis.
    Jax ain't a bad plan B. In fact, he needs to be with the Spurs before he self-destructs, personally and professionally.

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    Jax ain't a bad plan B. In fact, he needs to be with the Spurs before he self-destructs, personally and professionally.
    because it is the spurs job to make sure he acts right

    I do not think so

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    The problem with Jax is that he needs to do things he hasn't done since 2003 :
    - playing good D
    - hustle
    - being the 4th option
    - not having off court problems

    and you can't say he will likely be like he was in 03. You need to be sure at 100% of that : you can 't gamble on a player with more than $21M left on his contract at the end of the year.

    Nobody can guarantee that Jax will come back with the same mentality than in 03 : no to him.

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    Obviously there are pros and cons with each guy. Among them:

    Maggette
    - younger
    - better rebounder
    - better mid range scorer


    Jackson
    - better defender
    - better outside shooter
    - knows the Spurs system

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    Warriors have surplus of swingmen

    So now that the dust has cleared from Wednesday's tornado of events, it's easier to survey the Warriors' new roster.

    It's clearly a better team, at least in regards to coach Don Nelson's style. It's no doubt much more feasible to work with financially, which will benefit executive vice president of basketball operations Chris Mullin in the future. It figures to be a more entertaining team, thanks to the increase in athleticism and off-the-court story lines.

    But perhaps the most intriguing aspect resulting from Wednesday's whirlwind eight-player trade with the Indiana Pacers involves a decision that still has to be made, maybe by the Feb. 22 NBA trade deadline. Don't know if you noticed, but the Warriors now have three swingmen: Jason Richardson, Mickael Pietrus and recently acquired Stephen Jackson.

    All three will play some shooting guard and small forward in Nelson's system. Only problem is, Nelson doesn't need three, especially since Monta Ellis is a lock to get some time at shooting guard. What Mullin, Nelson and general manager Rod Higgins have to decide is who stays and who goes. Let's say the Warriors keep two, starting one at small forward and the other at shooting guard, with Ellis coming off the bench, or starting with Ellis and the other coming off the bench.

    Which two will Mullin keep? How much will salary factor in? Will he move one by the trade deadline or wait until the offseason?

    Mullin intimated Wednesday that another move could come sooner rather than later. There are already rumors about the Warriors trying to get center Nazr Mohammed from Detroit, which has been shopping Mohammed in a search of backcourt help.

    "Timing-wise," Mullin said when asked if he would be active near the trade deadline. "I think it's good because it gives us a good month to get a look at this, where we are, to maybe re-evaluate that."

    So, who has the advantage? One would think Richardson is a lock to stay. But Pietrus and Jackson are cheaper.

    Richardson's making a lot of money ($10 million this season, $51 million in the next four years after that). What's more, Nelson -- who obviously has some pull with the front office -- hasn't gotten to see Richardson at his best. Richardson has been hurt all season, so Nellie doesn't know the JR that carried this team last season. He might not be as loyal to Richardson as are Mullin and many fans. That could be a factor. If so, Richardson's plan to return the first game after the All-Star break might be a good idea.

    If Pietrus (restricted free agent after this season) and Jackson (due $21.3 million over the next three years, not counting this season) together can accomplish what Richardson can, the Warriors may be willing to move Richardson and save the money -- especially if they can work out a reasonable extension with Pietrus.

    Pietrus has value to the Warriors on the market as the trade deadline nears because he has an expiring $2.5 million contract. But, Pietrus could stick around because he's played himself onto Nelson's good side.

    Pietrus is younger and potentially cheaper (unless another team throws an absurd amount of money at him) than Richardson and Jackson. He's also a better defender than either.

    Jackson just might be the odd man out. That he still could do some jail time works against him. As does his reputation for being immature and whiny. As does his propensity for taking bad shots and playing poor defense.

    But, Jackson is tall, strong, athletic and has the ability to be dominant. Nothing brings foam to the corner of Nellie's mouth like a matchup he can exploit, and Jackson can be a nightmare for opposing shooting guards. Still, it's going to take Jackson's putting on a spectacular show this month to stick around. On the one hand, if he plays well enough to draw interest from others, it might increase his chances of being shipped.

    But if he somehow convinces the Warriors he can do as much or more than Richardson for less money, or if he shows he gives more bang for the buck than Pietrus, or if he proves he can be a content force off the bench and give the Warriors the kind of depth they lack, or if no other team is willing to take him off the Warriors' hands, he could stick around.

    Of course, the Warriors could choose to keep just one of the three, and rely on the cost-effective production of swingmen Matt Barnes and Kelenna Azubuike. Either way, auditions begin Saturday, against LeBron James.

    Contact Marcus Thompson II at [email protected].

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/...s/16496900.htm

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    Who's gonna trade for Richardson? Much less a hurt Richardson, with that contract?

    Once again, the Spurs don't have enough to get a player they actually could use in Pietrus.

    Jackson. *vomits*

    Peel away Matt Barnes, please?

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