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    Or ... the Spurs just aren't that good.

    People always assume that the Spurs aren't trying or aren't respecting their opponents.

    Maybe they just don't have the horses to win.

    Maybe.
    Thats part of it, but a huge part of it is the effort on the court. You can tell when players are hustling. Effort is very apparent. And it is usually missing from the Spurs.

    There is no way that you can sit there and tell me that the sense of urgency the Spurs started the fourth quarter was the same as what they finished it with. There's just no way. If they come out and give that same effort early in the fourth, I think they win this game. But if you have to wait until your down 10 to actually have that fire lit, you're not going to win many games.

    So yes, they've got huge personel issues, but they damn sure aren't trying as hard as they could be either.

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    Don't be mad there are more successful people than you
    Dude, bring a valid point or shut the up. Your re act is getting tiresome.

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    At the beginning of the season, this team looked like it was going to be the Big 3 and assorted flotsam.

    Early on, some of the supporting cast looked like they might turn out OK.

    Midway through the season, the team looks like the Big 3 and assorted flotsam.

    The Spurs scored 85 points tonight. The supporting cast outside of the Big 3 got 23 points on 10-31 shooting.

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    Lame Post, Im tired of hearing that they will turn it on later.
    I agree, it has gotten old already. It's one thing to start of slow and improve throughout the season; it's another thing to start off well and decline as you go. This team, as is, will not challenge for a championship.

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    Don't be mad there are more successful people than you
    Successful? I see folks like you all the time up here in Dallas. Driving a Beamer, living on credit cards. If I wanted to be a pretentious asshole I could do the same thing with the job I have, but I choose not to.

    Different strokes for different folks, I guess...

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    There's no reason for TD to stay. The days of legends playing their entire career for one team are over. Winning another le with another franchise would only amplify his greatness. The departure of TD would be a great rejection of all the bull Holt's tried to get away with over the last couple of years. It's also not like the Spurs could paint TD as your average greedy selfish NBA player. I really wonder how the Spurs' spin machine would tackle that one.
    You're making the same mistake in regards to predicting Tim's actions as you do when you analyze Holts. You're assuming that winning a le is or should be the number one concern for Tim Duncan and his family.

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    They have no heart and they're not hungry. And you can't trade for desire. You have it or you don't. And its not a switch you can flip. This team is no where near good enough for switch flipping.

    This team is horrible at the moment, and most of it stems from a flat out lack of desire.

    ....Add no accountability and commitment from top of the organization as well!

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    hey it could be worse, you could be the Utah Jazz

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    Thats part of it, but a huge part of it is the effort on the court. You can tell when players are hustling. Effort is very apparent. And it is usually missing from the Spurs.

    There is no way that you can sit there and tell me that the sense of urgency the Spurs started the fourth quarter was the same as what they finished it with. There's just no way. If they come out and give that same effort early in the fourth, I think they win this game. But if you have to wait until your down 10 to actually have that fire lit, you're not going to win many games.

    So yes, they've got huge personel issues, but they damn sure aren't trying as hard as they could be either.
    Tim and Tony were on the bench for the first 3 1/2 minutes or so of the 4th. Talent issue.

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    Or ... the Spurs just aren't that good.

    People always assume that the Spurs aren't trying or aren't respecting their opponents.

    Maybe they just don't have the horses to win.

    Maybe.
    You think the Spurs aren't good enough to beat the Rockets without Yao at home?

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    There's no reason for TD to stay. The days of legends playing their entire career for one team are over. Winning another le with another franchise would only amplify his greatness. The departure of TD would be a great rejection of all the bull Holt's tried to get away with over the last couple of years. It's also not like the Spurs could paint TD as your average greedy selfish NBA player. I really wonder how the Spurs' spin machine would tackle that one.
    There would be nothing to spin. Pop would retire, Manu and Tony would demand trades, and the Spurs would fall to 14-68.

    Holt would see a cool $50 million sliced off the value of his team.

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    Dude, bring a valid point or shut the up. You're re act is getting tiresome.
    I did, and everyone gets all wet. Look, what season have we NOT gone through this crap? Laziness, old age, crap like that. What's getting old is people personally insulting other people on a SPORTS FORUM because of a SPURS LOSS. That's ing pathetic.

    Oh and refer to the 1st page of this thread. Thanks

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    Or ... the Spurs just aren't that good.

    People always assume that the Spurs aren't trying or aren't respecting their opponents.

    Maybe they just don't have the horses to win.

    Maybe.

    Aside from a Nazr/Rasho, this is basically the same team that won 63 games last season and came within a foul of making it to the conference finals and finals again.

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    I did, and everyone gets all wet. Look, what season have we NOT gone through this crap? Laziness, old age, crap like that. What's getting old is people personally insulting other people on a SPORTS FORUM because of a SPURS LOSS. That's ing pathetic.
    Considering how many home games we've already lost, I'm going to say that we haven't gone through this crap in a while.

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    You're making the same mistake in regards to predicting Tim's actions as you do when you analyze Holts. You're assuming that winning a le is or should be the number one concern for Tim Duncan and his family.
    TD's not about winning? The only time I've ever seen TD look at all like he was sandbagging it has been when the situation was decided. He's been carrying that look for just about all of this season.

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    If we don't stop losing we aren't even going to be in the playoffs.

    just getting in is all it takes

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    There would be nothing to spin. Pop would retire, Manu and Tony would demand trades, and the Spurs would fall to 14-68.

    Holt would see a cool $50 million sliced off the value of his team.
    Yep. Which makes me wonder if he's getting out of the business this year...

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    Don't be mad there are more successful people than you
    weak. you drive an underpowered, overpriced german status symbol. it was what...40k? wow, baaaallllllllin.

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    Aside from a Nazr/Rasho, this is basically the same team that won 63 games last season and came within a foul of making it to the conference finals and finals again.
    Sometimes, rather than aging gracefully, players fall off a cliff.

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    TD's not about winning? The only time I've ever seen TD look at all like he was sandbagging it has been when the situation was decided. He's been carrying that look for just about all of this season.
    I'm sure he wants to win. I don't think he will believe the situation is bad enough here for him to bolt for

    1) less money
    2) a new location

    There are more factors than "Gee, Dwight Howard is good". In the end I have no idea what he'll decide when the time comes, but whatever.

    Meh, I don't even care, the subject is what it is.

    it. I'm sick of this ing right now.

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    Or ... the Spurs just aren't that good.

    People always assume that the Spurs aren't trying or aren't respecting their opponents.

    Maybe they just don't have the horses to win.

    Maybe.
    Don't think so. If they played with the same urgency they played with in the last 5 minutes of <insert any close loss here> then they probably win. I'm not saying they have the horses to win against Dallas and Phoenix this year but they can hang with anyone else.

    The Spurs just aren't trying this year for large stretches in games. It's painfully obvious. When was the last time announcers publicly called out the Spurs for lacking desire?

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    Tim and Tony were on the bench for the first 3 1/2 minutes or so of the 4th. Talent issue.
    That still leaves at least another 4 minutes of horrible play. (not to mention the 3 quarters before that)

    I will give you this. I felt that Finley should'nt have played in the fourth, and I felt that Pop waited far too long to bring back Bruce.

    However, I saw a different gear the Spurs used in that quarter that wasn't used the rest of the game. And that ing sucks.

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    I did, and everyone gets all wet. Look, what season have we NOT gone through this crap? Laziness, old age, crap like that. What's getting old is people personally insulting other people on a SPORTS FORUM because of a SPURS LOSS. That's ing pathetic.

    Oh and refer to the 1st page of this thread. Thanks
    You're a moron, it's that simple.

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    I can't wait until Phoenix plays the Spurs. I would guesstimate a 40 point loss.

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    If the Spurs aren't a good enough team to beat Houston without Yao at the AT&T, then we need to start collecting lucky charms for our lottery pick.

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