Spurs after Atkins

[dg7md]

I'd love to have Stromile Swift.

[objective]

Another thing to think about is Jerry West is a big Fabricio Oberto fan.

True. IIRC the Spurs stopped negotiations with Scola in 05 because they just had to sign Oberto because he was about to sign with Memphis and the Spurs couldn't let that happen.

[Marcus Bryant]

Was Atkins born when LBJ was President?

[MajicMan]

Thought I would never see the day Spurs fans would be excited to have Sucky Crapkins on their roster. Is it that bad guys? He can hit the three though I can tell you that. With the way the Spurs move the ball he can hit that three all day and spread the floor. His defense is just miserable though.

[midgetonadonkey]

Thought I would never see the day Spurs fans would be excited to have Sucky Crapkins on their roster. Is it that bad guys? He can hit the three though I can tell you that. With the way the Spurs move the ball he can hit that three all day and spread the floor. His defense is just miserable though.

I hope you didn't stay up all night thinking of that zinger.

[timvp]

And whottt, I doubt Atkins would cause chemistry problems here because he'd have to want to come to San Antonio. He has the right to refuse any trade because he signed a one-year contract that will make him Bird eligible next summer. If Atkins accepts a trade, he'd lose his Bird status.

Atkins could stay in Memphis and put up big stats under Tony Barone and cash in this summer by either re-signing with the Grizzlies or via a sign-and-trade. If he accepts a trade to the Spurs, he'd know his minutes would go down and he'd lose any chance of having one final pay day.

He'd be another in the long line of Spurs who'd give up money to join the team.

[mardigan]

Thought I would never see the day Spurs fans would be excited to have Sucky Crapkins on their roster. Is it that bad guys? He can hit the three though I can tell you that. With the way the Spurs move the ball he can hit that three all day and spread the floor. His defense is just miserable though.

Its not like we think he will save the franchise, he is just a role player that can help, whats wrong with wanting that?

[Kori Ellis]

What's funny is that when I first read this:

So how come San Antonio is preoccupied on obtaining a two-way guard like Chucky Atkins?

I assumed it meant preoccupied with finding a two-way guard (for example Chucky Atkins) - not proccupied with Chucky Atkins (who is a two-way guard).

Yes I know he's really not a two-way guard - I just thought Vecsey was giving a bad example.

I'm guessing there would have been a comma after guard, if he meant it how I interpreted it. But when I read it, I just thought it meant they were preoccupied with getting a guard. Not preoccupied with getting Atkins.

[timvp]

Surely the Grizzlies can do better than Beno Freaking Udrih for Atkins' expiring contract...

Atkins isn't worth much more than a low level prospect (Beno) and a second round pick. Plus the Grizzlies are looking to open up cap space, so getting back Eric Williams' expiring contract would help do that.

The only other contending team I can think of who is close to as desperate as the Spurs are to find a backup point guard is Detroit. All the other teams currently in the playoff picture have backup point guards at least as good as Atkins.

[Spurminator]

Atkins isn't worth much more than a low level prospect (Beno) and a second round pick. Plus the Grizzlies are looking to open up cap space, so getting back Eric Williams' expiring contract would help do that.

That's my point, though... Unless I'm missing something, Atkins IS an expiring contract, so why wouldn't they just keep him?

[Kermit]

he would probably rather go to detroit considering he's played there before.

[MannyIsGod]

Since when do players who are traded loser their Bird rights?

[timvp]

That's my point, though... Unless I'm missing something, Atkins IS an expiring contract, so why wouldn't they just keep him?

The thinking would be that Beno is cheaper option than any point guard they could replace Atkins with. And if they can find a way to get rid of Stoudamire, Kyle Lowry and Beno could make a pretty decent point guard combo for a rebuilding team. Plus Jerry West always loves those second round picks.

But yeah, the Grizzlies would probably have to actually want Beno to do the trade ... and that could be a problem




P.S.

The Spurs could replace Beno with Vaughn if the Grizzlies don't want Beno. But then the Spurs might have to give them more than a second round pick . . .

[timvp]

Since when do players who are traded loser their Bird rights?

Players who sign a one-year contract that would then make them Bird eligible after that year lose their Bird rights if they are traded. Because of that, they have the right to reject any trade.

It was the same case for Reggie Evans and Flip Murray last year. Both accepted trades but then lost their Bird rights.

[AFBlue]

Another thing to think about is Jerry West is a big Fabricio Oberto fan. I wouldn't trade Oberto in a package just to get Atkins, but perhaps if they want to throw in one of their athletes (Dahntay Jones, Alexander Johnson, etc.) something can be done.

Is this public knowledge or LJ knowledge?

[whottt]

Chucky's really kept Memphis from sucking this year....

[whottt]

Backup point guard is far more important than you're thinking. I honestly think having any type of scoring in that spot when Tony leaves the court is really important.

I would love Chucky Atkins.

BTW, I think its far more likely Peter V is getting his info from this board than that the Spurs are actually in the process of doing this. LJ is his source.

Tony's 24 freaking years old...play him 48, and if you want a PG who can't play D use Barry, he hits more of his shots and is a better passer and rebounder.

[bdictjames]

How old is Chucky? His game was on NBATV a while ago, where he scored 20 points in 6-of-6 3-pt shooting against Detroit on 2005.

[Manu_The _Best]

Man, Chucky Atkins coming in would be awesome. But if Peter V is reporting it you can bet it isn't happening.

Atkins can really help us with the scoring - he is NOT that good of a defender, but the Spurs have enough defenders, they need someone to score and Atkins will be a good addition to do just that - his 3-pt shot is a killer...

[MannyIsGod]

Players who sign a one-year contract that would then make them Bird eligible after that year lose their Bird rights if they are traded. Because of that, they have the right to reject any trade.

It was the same case for Reggie Evans and Flip Murray last year. Both accepted trades but then lost their Bird rights.

I did not know that. I am CBA rusty.

[MannyIsGod]

Tony's 24 freaking years old...play him 48, and if you want a PG who can't play D use Barry, he hits more of his shots and is a better passer and rebounder.

I completely agree that Barry whould be playing more backup 1 minutes. I've said that for awhile. But if Pop won't do that, then at least picking up a serviceable backup will fix something.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Isn't atkins 39 yrs old something to that affect? is he a horrible free throw shooter?

[Kermit]

"is he a horrible free throw shooter?"

then he should fit in pretty well with some of the players on the spurs.

[bigdog]

God, have we really fallen as far as to want Jake Tsakalidis?

Sigh...

yeah,i would never want jake trakalidis......but atkins, ive wanted the spurs to get him since the summer and get rid of beno

[Bruno]

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January 30th, 2007

By Mike Schmidt

Conroy Added to Memphis

After agreeing to a buyout with Guard Eddie Jones, the Memphis Grizzlies have signed Will Conroy of the Tulsa 66ers to a 10 day contract. Conroy has spent the last season and a half with the 66ers, and has been the best point guard in the D-League this season. He is the 8th D-League player to receive a chance in the NBA this season. With Tulsa, Conroy averaged 15.8 points, 10.3 assists, and 5.4 rebounds per game. The Grizzlies currently have Damon Stoudamire and Chucky Atkins at the point guard spot, with rookie Kyle Lowry out for the season. From what we're hearing, Chucky Atkins is not seeing eye to eye with new head coach Tony Barone, and the Grizzlies have been trying to showcase him lately in an attempt to get some value for him in a trade. Atkins had an unbelievable 29 point, 15 assist, 1 turnover performance last week in a win at Utah. Conroy is expected to stick around in Memphis for the entire season, and will almost certainly see minutes once/if Atkins is traded.