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Well said Whott...of course I'm pissed. I was just surprised that POP made those comments. He should gave his stock answers like he does for everything else.
Isn't Pop's answer usually the same on League decisions? "What we think is irrelevent"..."the League is going to do what it thinks is best". That is a pretty stock answer out of Pop's inventory of response tapes.
Well said Whott...of course I'm pissed. I was just surprised that POP made those comments. He should gave his stock answers like he does for everything else.
He did.
Pop did say his stock answer. Did you hear the Pop Show?
That is his stock answer...he never calls the refs out after the game, he never call the league out for stuff...
The only time I have ever seen him do it was earlier in the year for Bruce Bowen, because no one was in Bowen's corner and the league called Bowen directly and ordered him to change his style of play without coming to the Spurs first.
Med is pissed because Pop didn't stick up for Kobe? What the ? Does he need to tuck him in too?
Yeah I'm irate...because POP by agreeing with the L, basically agrees that the suspension is deserving. He's a .
So ur asses get kicked???
did you forget to take your medication today?
Was the entire show about Medvedenko ing or did they talk about anything worthwhile?
Look for posts by Solid D in this thread, he discusses everything they talked about.
Gracias.
Everytime a guy gets hit in the head is deserving of suspension, intentional or not...deserving. This is our NBA.... . Everytime a guy goes into the lane and gets partially blocked, the hand goes down and hits the guy in the head. Suspension...everytime a guy dunks on someone and sends him careening down to the floor...suspension. Welcome to 2007.
Well, he does have a point. That is if you evaluate Bowens defense without trying to determine intent, but instead outcome, which is basically, from what I've read on here so far, POPs way of rationalizing Kobe Bryants suspension
I agree with Medvedenko.
Besides, everyone knows that superstars should be treated differently than all other players -- Phil Jackson says so.
Exactly. Philip is among the most underhanded pieces of professional sports has ever seen. He's become a parody of himself. He should run for office. As in LEAGUE FRONT office.
You aren't reading well at all.That is if you evaluate Bowens defense without trying to determine intent, but instead outcome, which is basically, from what I've read on here so far, POPs way of rationalizing Kobe Bryants suspension
He just recently called out Shaq, a player that lead him to 3 championships, sounds like a great guy to me
what's not to like about phil jackson? he only complains publicly to the media about the officiating during a playoff series.. he only belittles and disrespects other franchises, cities and coaches.. so what's not like?
^^^Dont forget former players
I have to say that it amuses me, to some extent, that fans of other teams want to rationalize the behavior of their players by pointing to Bruce Bowen and attempting to argue that Bruce "got away with it."
Mostly, the Szczerbiak kick analogy kills me. I understand that video suggests to some that Bowen was bent on kicking Wally in the grill, that he got away with it, and basically faced no consequences for it. Of course, it's rarely mentioned that Bowen was assessed a fine and a flagrant foul for the kick.
More to the point of this conversation, Bowen's kick was dangerous and perhaps should have been penalized more severely. Nevertheless, it is clear that at the time the NBA was not in the business of viewing intentional or inadvertent blows to the head as automatically suspension-worthy. That might have been a bad policy choice on the league's part, but there's no doubt that the choice was enforced consistently at that time.
We're now almost 5 years later in time; since March 1, 2002 -- the date of the Bowen kick -- the league has made clear that it is going to take a much harder line on potentially-dangerous plays and particularly blows above the neck. Had Bowen's incident occurred on Sunday, I have no doubt that he would have been assessed a flagrant 2 and ejected from the game. For crissakes, in Game 1 of the 2003 First Round, Kevin Willis was given a flagrant 2 and ejected for a blow to Scott Williams' head; Willis was also suspended for Game 2 of that series.
Clearly, a play like the one made by Bowen would be viewed very differently in the current atmosphere. But that's understandable -- the league changes the way it enforces rules and the way it penalizes players from time-to-time. Here's one such time. It's asinine to point to things that happened 5 years ago as precedent for how situations should be handled today. It's like comparing the things that are penalized today in the NFL with the things that Butkus or Conrad Dobler once got away with.
And I defy anyone to find me an example (other than the kick) of Bruce Bowen striking a blow to the head of any player without facing at least some consequence for that action.
People that bring up the Sczerbiak play forget one thing, no one likes Wally Sczerbiak
Way to make a fool of yourself, slava
No way Pop would compain to the L. That is absolutely not his style. Plus he likes Kobe, but that's beside the point. Pop is a rugged coach who does not seek style or asskissing points. Trust me. This was reviewed by the L on its on. The hit was obvious, although I don't think Kobe did it with malice. I think Kobe did it with compe ive fire but did not want to hurt Manu. Everyone saw the clip on Sportscenter, probably, how could the L front office have missed it? Of course they had to review it!
Don't even try to put this on Pop or the Spurs. They are the most stoic franchise in the NBA and they have much bigger concerns than Kobe's lick on Manu. Did you see the Spurs v. Denver series in the 2005 playoffs? Spurs fans were PISSED at Pop for not complaining about the hits Manu was taking.
Bro, its 2007. If you were a true Lakers fan you'd know that the asterisk was taken out of the Spurs' name with force in the 2003 playoffs when Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Kevin Willis sent Shaq to the bench with over 6 minutes left in the decisive game...in LA. If I recall correctly, the Spurs were up by as much as 30 in that game. So spare the weak asterisk smack, please.
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