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    That's what she said. LuvBones's Avatar
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    I know what they do is wrong, I don't want to excuse it, but something about this whole thing just doesn't sit right with me.

    The Dateline people work with Perverted Justice and act as agents for the police but the men are never read their Miranda Warning before they speak with Dateline.

    Just doesn't seem right to me...
    They're not getting arrested when they're talking to Dateline, and it's the news so they have the right to report (record) without their consent. They are read their miranda rights when they get arrested.

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    They're not getting arrested when they're talking to Dateline, and it's the news so they have the right to report (record) without their consent. They are read their miranda rights when they get arrested.
    I love you...

    You are over eighteen right?

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    Well married people obviously have sex... I think....


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    I know what they do is wrong, I don't want to excuse it, but something about this whole thing just doesn't sit right with me.

    The Dateline people work with Perverted Justice and act as agents for the police but the men are never read their Miranda Warning before they speak with Dateline.

    Just doesn't seem right to me...
    These men's rights are not being violated in anyway. They don't have to answer any questions. Chris Hansen isn't a policie officer placing anyone under arrest so there is no need for him to read miranda to anyone.

    The part they show on TV means to the court case, I can promise you that. Once the guys show up, they are undeniably linked to the transcripts of the online conversations which are all the evidence that is needed.

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    I know what they do is wrong, I don't want to excuse it, but something about this whole thing just doesn't sit right with me.
    Perhaps it has something to do with the coldness of, more than likely, being motivated more by increasing their ratings than anything so noble as justice or the welfare of these guys' intended targets.

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    Its not illegal to marry a 14 year old CBF. This isn't about Marriage in any way. Attraction to young children isn't illegal. I think there could easily be genetic reasons for that.


    This is about taking advantadge of children for sex.


    Oh, and for the record I don't give a if Pervereted Justice gets 1 million per episode. Thats social capitalism at its finest. Libertarianism should trumpet this as a prime example where an organization doing a public service receives a proper reward for that service.
    Hmm, i didn't know those laws still existed. I thought you had to go through an entire array of beauricratic nonsense so it was almost nonexistent today.

    But think about the hypocracy in letting 14 year olds marry.

    So its not illegal for a 14 year old to have sex in the married household with a 20 year old but it is illegal for a 14 year old to make a conscious decision to have consensual sex with a 20 year old who happens to only be turned on by 14 year olds?

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    Perhaps it has something to do with the coldness of, more than likely, being motivated more by increasing their ratings than anything so noble as justice or the welfare of these guys' intended targets.
    I could care less if they are doing it for ratings, just as long as they are getting these bas s off the street.
    I'm sorry but I don't feel sorry for child predators because Dateline is being cold to them.

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    time back then was worlds different than it is now. back then it was all about marriage and building a family, carrying on a family name/legacy.. that is what life was about. fast forward to today, times are no longer like that obviously (except for those weird cults out there that practice polygamy and all that, they marry young as well). these days it's NOT about the same things as it was in the old (fashioned) days. now it's all about sex and molestation and taking advantage of kids secretly because they get off on it
    I'm not so sure it wasn't about taking advantage of kids because they get off on it back in the old days, as well.

    Developing an attraction for someone so much younger than you is a power thing regardless if you're looking for a subservient little wifey, or a quick with a little girl.

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    I love you...

    You are over eighteen right?
    yes I am.

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    I'm sure there are all kinds of buearocratic loopholes for a 14 year old to marry - actually it may even be illegal but I thought it wasn't with parental consent - but there is no way I'm going to say that any 14 year old has the capacity to decide to have one night stands with 40 year olds. No ing way.

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    Texas law on child marriage:

    If you are between 14 and 17 years old, you may apply for a marriage license in Texas only if you have written parental consent on an official form in the presence of the county clerk or if you have received an order from the Texas district court authorizing your marriage.

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    I could care less if they are doing it for ratings, just as long as they are getting these bas s off the street.
    I'm sorry but I don't feel sorry for child predators because Dateline is being cold to them.
    Never said I felt sorry for them.

    The motivation is still ratings, however. The motivation is not doing good, it's making money. It's cold because somewhere in an NBC board room, there's some sick who, even if only for an instant, would be sad if pedophilia suddenly disappeared over night because it would mean the end of the most popular segment on their news show. That's ooky. That's a problem for me.

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    spurs=bling should probably preemptively place you on ignore.

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    Never said I felt sorry for them.

    The motivation is still ratings, however. The motivation is not doing good, it's making money. It's cold because somewhere in an NBC board room, there's some sick who, even if only for an instant, would be sad is pedophilia suddenly disappeared over night because it would mean the end of the most popular segment on their news show. That's ooky. That's a problem for me.
    Thats not a problem for me at all.

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    I'm sure there are all kinds of buearocratic loopholes for a 14 year old to marry - actually it may even be illegal but I thought it wasn't with parental consent - but there is no way I'm going to say that any 14 year old has the capacity to decide to have one night stands with 40 year olds. No ing way.

    Texas law on child marriage:

    If you are between 14 and 17 years old, you may apply for a marriage license in Texas only if you have written parental consent on an official form in the presence of the county clerk or if you have received an order from the Texas district court authorizing your marriage.
    That sounds familiar. So what does this forum say about this state law on child marriage? Sounds like the state is saying if the parents deem their child mature enough they may enter the bond of marriage (and sex would almost surely follow).

    Do yall agree with this?

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    You have a boyfriend too don't you?

    I guess that makes my choice much easier...

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    Thats not a problem for me at all.
    yeah, me neither. do I really believe that there is someone in NBC headquarters that would be sad to see the end of pedophilia? no. but even if that were so, sure it is a little disturbing, but sure as not even close to as disturbing as those men they catch and any other child sexual predator out there. I have no sympathy for them whatsoever

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    Well, there goes that fantasy!!

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    That's what she said. LuvBones's Avatar
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    That sounds familiar. So what does this forum say about this state law on child marriage? Sounds like the state is saying if the parents deem their child mature enough they may enter the bond of marriage (and sex would almost surely follow).

    Do yall agree with this?
    Marriage and meeting for sex is completely different.

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    You freakin' PERVS!!!!!!!!
    I'm glad I'm not alone.

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    Marriage and meeting for sex is completely different.


    But you agree that a 14 year old could possibly be mature enough to enter the bond of marriage?

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    I have no sympathy for them whatsoever
    There is a monumental difference between having sympathy for potential child molestors, and being somewhat disturbed by a television show that uses them as entertainment.

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    Do you contact the men or do they contact you?
    A.
    We have an official "rules of engagement" that we train contributors in once they are selected. One of those rules is that unless asked to in the chat, always let the male PM you. That way they can't cry that the "kid" messaged them in IM first, they have to take the first step. Often, just entering a chat room is enough to get 3-10 instant messages at once without having to say anything in the main chat room area.

    We are philosophically against anyone or any organization that contacts people first as underage personas. There is no reason to do that when online predators are so numerous and motivated to contact what they think is a 10-15 year old male or female first. We want predatory threats and we are happy to wait as long as it takes to find them. Sadly, that doesn't take very long.


    http://www.perverted-justice.com/?pg=faq#cat2


    FWIW, they really need to do that FAQ. It is horribly unprofessional and condescending.

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    There is a monumental difference between having sympathy for potential child molestors, and being somewhat disturbed by a television show that uses the catching and exposing as entertainment.
    FYP

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    But you agree that a 14 year old could possibly be mature enough to enter the bond of marriage?
    Personally, I don't agree with that, but if their parents do.. that's on them.

    There is a monumental difference between having sympathy for potential child molestors, and being somewhat disturbed by a television show that uses them as entertainment.
    Everything on tv is entertainment so how is it disturbing that it's entertaining AND doing good? This show could be scaring off pedophiles who are thinking of meeting with underaged kids so it's not all about entertainment.

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