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    There should be an over/under vBookie on the number of minutes it will take Ian to foul out.

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    Reportedly, Scola was interested in 3 years and $9 to $10 M- which is equivalent to the contracts signed by Anthony Parker and Jorge Garbajosa- but the Spurs would not give him that.
    Link?

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    it is true,itīs been all over the news this offseason

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    can you just post that at the top so these knuckleheads will quit challenging this issue...?????

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    The issue is not about the buy out. Every team knows they get around the buy out by offering a bigger contract to compensate for the buy out. The Spurs were not willing to do this and instead have probalby5-7 slugs that will not even be on the team next year.

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    it is true,itīs been all over the news this offseason
    Then it'll be easy to find a link. I honestly didn't see it.

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    I can't believe this still isn't common knoweledge, the Spurs easily could have afforded him but don't want him no matter what.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...a.1300a8f.html

    Scola is seeking a three-year contract worth between $9 million and $10 million, about a third of which would go to paying the $3.5 million buyout he has with Tau.

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    Thanks. I don't know why you guys got your panties in a wad.

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    There should be an over/under vBookie on the number of minutes it will take Ian to foul out.
    specially against Scola who's got superstar treatment from the refs.

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    I can't believe this still isn't common knoweledge, the Spurs easily could have afforded him but don't want him no matter what.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...a.1300a8f.html
    I'm sure once the 2008 plan became a possibility, Scola was judged as not being worth scuttling it.

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    I'm undecided on Scola because the power forward position in Europe can't be compared to the power forward position in the NBA. Malik Rose could go to Europe right now and average 30 and 15.

    That said, the biggest plus for Scola in my book is that he's always played well against the US NT. In the game this summer, he was the best player on the court in the first quarter.

    Might not mean much but it's a good sign that he comes up big in big games.

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    P.S.

    I think that's the first time in recorded SpursTalk history that ChumpDumper asked for a link and was given one.

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    07-08
    Eric Williams 4.3 mil off the books
    Matt Bonner 2 mil off the books
    Jaques Vaughn 1 mil off the books

    highly sought after expiring contracts
    Brent Barry 5.5 mil
    Bruce Bowen 4.1 mil
    Robert Horry 3.6 mil
    Francisco Elson 3 mil
    Michale Finley 3.1 mil
    Fabrico Oberto 2.5 mil

    Tradeable youth
    Beno Udrih 1.7 mil
    Jackie Butler 2.3 mil

    total tradable assets = 33.1 mil

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    I will always be thankful.

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    Also in that article:

    Moving Duncan to center and signing Scola isn't being considered.
    Will it be considered this summer?

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    I'm undecided on Scola because the power forward position in Europe can't be compared to the power forward position in the NBA. Malik Rose could go to Europe right now and average 30 and 15.

    That said, the biggest plus for Scola in my book is that he's always played well against the US NT. In the game this summer, he was the best player on the court in the first quarter.

    Might not mean much but it's a good sign that he comes up big in big games.
    I was thinking the same way, since recently, but again with the success of some euro bigs in NBA and the small ball thing, I finally think Scola could be just fine.
    And, dont' know if you're joking with Malik but no way Malik would dominate in Europe. PF all have very goods hands here and have, at worse, a decent shoot, or better can shoot three (even if the 3 range is a bit closer)

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    Eric Williams 4.3 mil off the books
    Matt Bonner 2 mil off the books
    Jaques Vaughn 1 mil off the books

    highly sought after expiring contracts
    Brent Barry 5.5 mil
    Bruce Bowen 4.1 mil
    Robert Horry 3.6 mil
    Francisco Elson 3 mil
    Michale Finley 3.1 mil
    Fabrico Oberto 2.5 mil

    Tradeable youth
    Beno Udrih 1.7 mil
    Jackie Butler 2.3 mil

    total tradable assets = 33.1 mil
    Highly sought after?

    By whom?

    By teams that want them in exchange for longer contracts.

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    Malik Rose could go to Europe right now and average 30 and 15.
    lol, talk about an exaggeration.

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    yes they can.

    Screw this season, Spurs office needs to do the following over the summer:
    - get Scola
    - sign Nocioni*
    - sign a backup PG.
    - Send Oberto and Beno back to Europe, send Finley to Acapulco









    * I believe in miracles

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    Could the Spurs do a sign and trade with the Bulls this Summer for Nocioni?

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    I'm undecided on Scola because the power forward position in Europe can't be compared to the power forward position in the NBA. Malik Rose could go to Europe right now and average 30 and 15.

    That said, the biggest plus for Scola in my book is that he's always played well against the US NT. In the game this summer, he was the best player on the court in the first quarter.

    Might not mean much but it's a good sign that he comes up big in big games.
    basketball has change singnificaly in the last 10 years all over the world.
    to give you a perfert example about it,Argentina beated USA team in Athens,And Scola had to guard guys like Tim Duncan,and still got his 20 pts and 10 boards.
    The gap between NBA and rest of the world has gotten shorter.

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    Regardless of whether Scola could have the same success in the NBA as he's had in Europe, it's not like he'd be any worse than the current Spur bigs excluding Duncan.

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    Regardless of whether Scola could have the same success in the NBA as he's had in Europe, it's not like he'd be any worse than the current Spur bigs excluding Duncan.
    Now, that's objective.

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    Now, that's objective.
    precisely.

    What's Scola going to do, block less shots than Oberto? Rotate worse than Elson? Half-ass more than Horry? Brick more than Finley (big for smallball purposes)? Get fewer defensive rebounds than Oberto or Elson? Be slower than Jackie Butler?

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    Here's a question.

    Which stat line is better?

    16.3 points and 6.9 rebounds in 29 minutes

    18 points and 6.6 rebounds in 30 minutes.

    How much better and why?

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    Here's a question.

    Which stat line is better?

    16.3 points and 6.9 rebounds in 29 minutes

    18 points and 6.6 rebounds in 30 minutes.

    How much better and why?
    Give me field goal percentages and then I'll decide

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