Wade on Dirk

[ponky]

Dam there are too many pussy Dallas fans whining in here. Shaq was not gonna let Miami lose last year. Dallas won their le when they squeaked by the Spurs.

where else are they supposed to be? all the pussy Spurs fans are whining next door in the Spurs forum, no room to breathe

[anon101]

When TNT announced the All-Star reserves, they interviewed Dirk. Kenny Smith asked Dirk a general question about the team's success so far this year and their focus on getting back to the Finals. Dirk answered something to the effect, that yes, that was the team's whole focus, "we were right there last year and we felt like we gave it away."

I don't understand Wade's reaction. I have seen basically the same quote from Billups in the last couple of weeks about their loss to Miami last year. In fact, if you look around, you can find similar quotes from San Antonio after their loss to Dallas last year and after their losses to LA, from Billups after the finals loss to San Antonio and even from Shaq every year he didn't win a le--isn't that the expected response from a team that had a chance to win it all: "All respect to the other team (and the quotes showing Dirk has given Miami plenty of respect have already been posted), BUT, *we* failed. We failed to live up to the potential we believe we had and so we have to do better."

That's what we expect from sports stars--that they believe they can win if they just do their best and that they convey that belief to us, the fans. If Dirk had said, "Yeah, Miami beat us. They were better than us. And even if we played better and tried harder they would still be better than us." then he would be roundly and justifiably criticized as a quitter. Instead, he said the exact same thing any athlete should say after they lose--I/we failed, I/we intend to do better and if we do we won't fail next time.

(And I can't believe that Gasol thing is still floating around. All Dirk stated was a fact--Gasol had just gone off on the Mavs for 36 and 15. Gasol is not a 36 and 15 guy. Last year, he was a 20 and 9 guy. The Mavs had let him dominate as if he was Shaq, and Dirk said they needed to do a better job on him--even the Memphis papers admitted what Dirk had said was reasonable after the Mavs held him to 13 and 8 the next game).

[LEONARD]

Oh ...Cubes mixing it up!!

[ponky]

When TNT announced the All-Star reserves, they interviewed Dirk. Kenny Smith asked Dirk a general question about the team's success so far this year and their focus on getting back to the Finals. Dirk answered something to the effect, that yes, that was the team's whole focus, "we were right there last year and we felt like we gave it away."

I don't understand Wade's reaction. I have seen basically the same quote from Billups in the last couple of weeks about their loss to Miami last year. In fact, if you look around, you can find similar quotes from San Antonio after their loss to Dallas last year and after their losses to LA, from Billups after the finals loss to San Antonio and even from Shaq every year he didn't win a le--isn't that the expected response from a team that had a chance to win it all: "All respect to the other team (and the quotes showing Dirk has given Miami plenty of respect have already been posted), BUT, *we* failed. We failed to live up to the potential we believe we had and so we have to do better."

That's what we expect from sports stars--that they believe they can win if they just do their best and that they convey that belief to us, the fans. If Dirk had said, "Yeah, Miami beat us. They were better than us. And even if we played better and tried harder they would still be better than us." then he would be roundly and justifiably criticized as a quitter. Instead, he said the exact same thing any athlete should say after they lose--I/we failed, I/we intend to do better and if we do we won't fail next time.

(And I can't believe that Gasol thing is still floating around. All Dirk stated was a fact--Gasol had just gone off on the Mavs for 36 and 15. Gasol is not a 36 and 15 guy. Last year, he was a 20 and 9 guy. The Mavs had let him dominate as if he was Shaq, and Dirk said they needed to do a better job on him--even the Memphis papers admitted what Dirk had said was reasonable after the Mavs held him to 13 and 8 the next game).

LMFAO, so that's where Wade is getting his comment from, THAT f*cking quote?!?!?! HAHA, ok Dirk, next time make sure you diss your own team and don't reveal how YOU feel about the situation. Dirk didn't say that the refs gave it away, or that the Heat didn't deserve the trophy, he said that as a team, the Mavs felt like they gave it away...and they freakin' did, they were up 2-0 in the series and they gave the lead and the opportunity away. Have fun at the All-Star game Wade, it's going to be a first game back.

[anon101]

ing mavfans, preach that they got robbed on the finals but refuse to beleive we got robbed on the 2nd round. stupid es

Because the above is completely illogical--why would the refs help Dallas against the Spurs and then rob them in the Finals?

Complaining about the refs in the Finals is pathetic, but obviously if they had called (or not called) a few critical calls differently, the outcome of that series would have been very different.

So if you are going to claim the refs helped the Mavs out in the San Antonio series, you have to explain why they didn't help them in the Finals. Otherwise, you just come off as a raving lunatic.

[johnpaulwall21]

I hate this bs wade is saying, Hes actin like hes the best of the league with no flaws, talking down on others like his tt dont smell. Yeah hes startin to believe his own hype, and his team still continues to struggle with that below .500 record. I hope the spurs whip that azz on sunday...............

shouts out to mike jones

[cheguevara]

Because the above is completely illogical--why would the refs help Dallas against the Spurs and then rob them in the Finals?

well if I beleived conspiracy theories it makes Perfect Sense. NBA wanted a Dallas vs. Miami finals, both good market cities. But in the end they wanted to market Wade/Shaq image(better than a german/undercover brother/carlton image) and that's why Mavs got hosed. perfect sense.

but I don't beleive conspiracy theories, I'm just pointing the fact that dumbass mavfans can beleive finals war rigged but refuse to beleive the 2nd round could have been rigged too.

[leemajors]

Because the above is completely illogical--why would the refs help Dallas against the Spurs and then rob them in the Finals?

Complaining about the refs in the Finals is pathetic, but obviously if they had called (or not called) a few critical calls differently, the outcome of that series would have been very different.

So if you are going to claim the refs helped the Mavs out in the San Antonio series, you have to explain why they didn't help them in the Finals. Otherwise, you just come off as a raving lunatic.

it's obviously a conspiracy against cuban. stern obviously likens cuban to sisyphus.

[Johnny RIngo]

Cuban's still ing about the refs? Lmao!! That fat prick didn't seem to mind the refs help when they carried the Mavs out of the second round. Goddamn hypocrite.

San Antonio: 3 championships
Houston: 2 championships
Dallas: 0uch!

[cheguevara]

^ exactly!!!!!

[Findog]

ing mavfans, preach that they got robbed on the finals but refuse to beleive we got robbed on the 2nd round. stupid es

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We must not have watched the same series, because the one I saw, Bowen, Horry and whoever else you guys put on Dirk couldn't get a call, just as Diop and Damp couldn't buy a call against Duncan.

Not to mention the way Manu flops to the floor like a if you breathe on him. How many times has a ref given him the benefit of the doubt on that?

[ponky]

well if I beleived conspiracy theories it makes Perfect Sense. NBA wanted a Dallas vs. Miami finals, both good market cities. But in the end they wanted to market Wade/Shaq image(better than a german/undercover brother/carlton image) and that's why Mavs got hosed. perfect sense.

but I don't beleive conspiracy theories, I'm just pointing the fact that dumbass mavfans can beleive finals war rigged but refuse to beleive the 2nd round could have been rigged too.

The problem with that is that Duncan took more FTAs than any other player on the court from either team in that series.

[cheguevara]

watch game 2 of that series es, w/out your homer glasses.

[leemajors]

The problem with that is that Duncan took more FTAs than any other player on the court from either team in that series.

that's not much of an advantage though.

[LB7]

watch game 2 of that series es, w/out your homer glasses.

Likewise

[cheguevara]

Likewise

game 2, 2nd quarter, refs were brutal!

I almost have an aneurism

[Findog]

watch game 2 of that series es, w/out your homer glasses.

You mean the one where we ran your asses out of the gym? The one where the Spurs were about as effective as Stephen Hawking when it came to defending Devin Harris on the high screen and roll? I just checked the box score -- Dallas had 43 FTA, San Antonio had 37. Duncan had 14 FTA, Dirk had 7. Of all the games in that series, I can't believe you're using that one as evidence that the refs were screwing San Antonio.

[Findog]

game 2, 2nd quarter, refs were brutal!

I almost have an aneurism

The one thing most vivid about that game that I remember is that the Spurs were getting outhustled and outplayed, then they had a couple calls go against them and they completely lost their . It was an embarrassing lack of composure for a veteran team, a team defending a le.

[P-O-Z]

for all u mavs fans

THIS IS FROM MIAMI HERALD

On the final play of last season, with a chance to tie the score and possibly the series, Payton grabbed Terry's jersey without the refs calling it, and Dallas' last shot at saving its season literally bounced away.

''If he didn't have my jersey, the ball goes in,'' Terry said.

So many laments. The refs. The bounces. The maybes, almosts and should-haves. Cuban, who always has fun, said he didn't enjoy Miami this trip because he couldn't go out with all the playful and hostile heckling he was getting. It followed him to his seat Sunday, too.

''It might hurt less if we had lost to a better team,'' Cuban said. ``But we didn't.''

Miami wasn't better?

''Not at all,'' Terry said.

Really?

''We're the better team,'' Stackhouse said. ``Doesn't matter what we think unless you show it and prove it. But man for man, if we're playing our best and they're playing their best, we are better. For a four-game stretch, they played unbelievable and we didn't play well at all, and we were still in every game.''

Walker, a champion now, has called the Mavs the ''whiniest, cryingest'' team he has ever heard.

It isn't quite the le Dallas wanted from Miami.

[StylisticS]

Dam there are too many pussy Dallas fans whining in here. Shaq was not gonna let Miami lose last year. Dallas won their le when they squeaked by the Spurs.

You mean Wade, right?

[stretch]

for all u mavs fans

THIS IS FROM MIAMI HERALD

On the final play of last season, with a chance to tie the score and possibly the series, Payton grabbed Terry's jersey without the refs calling it, and Dallas' last shot at saving its season literally bounced away.

''If he didn't have my jersey, the ball goes in,'' Terry said.

So many laments. The refs. The bounces. The maybes, almosts and should-haves. Cuban, who always has fun, said he didn't enjoy Miami this trip because he couldn't go out with all the playful and hostile heckling he was getting. It followed him to his seat Sunday, too.

''It might hurt less if we had lost to a better team,'' Cuban said. ``But we didn't.''

Miami wasn't better?

''Not at all,'' Terry said.

Really?

''We're the better team,'' Stackhouse said. ``Doesn't matter what we think unless you show it and prove it. But man for man, if we're playing our best and they're playing their best, we are better. For a four-game stretch, they played unbelievable and we didn't play well at all, and we were still in every game.''

Walker, a champion now, has called the Mavs the ''whiniest, cryingest'' team he has ever heard.

It isn't quite the le Dallas wanted from Miami.

id like a link to this article. if you cant show a valid link, then you are full of .

[cheguevara]

The one thing most vivid about that game that I remember is that the Spurs were getting outhustled and outplayed, then they had a couple calls go against them and they completely lost their . It was an embarrassing lack of composure for a veteran team, a team defending a le.

what's embarrasing is seeing Dirk choke like a 2c in the finals

you almost choke in the 2nd round to us, u were up 3-1, if not for 1 play

ing chokers!!!

[mikejones99]

Miami gave Dallas the first 2 games then crushed your lucky ass. Dallas people must be blind. Why can't they go to a mavs board ?

[Findog]

what's embarrasing is seeing Dirk choke like a 2c in the finals

Bennett Salvatore...that is all

[P-O-Z]

id like a link to this article. if you cant show a valid link, then you are full of .

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/columnists/dan_le_ba /16515376.htm?source=rss&channel=miamiherald_dan_le _ba