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    he wants playing time from what people say.

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    he wants playing time from what people say.
    He'd get it. Snagging him most likely means giving up Barry, so he'd take his minutes and if he played effectively enough, that'd take the pressure off of playing Fin so much. He'd also get the nod over Finley for the small ball lineup, because of his superior rebounding.

    Bottom Line: If the Spurs did the deal, he wouldn't be dissapointed with his minutes.

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    How would Holt save money on a buy-out? Williams would have to accept less money than he's owed.
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    Sorry Mouse, you got dropped.

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    What I find interesting is that Maggette seemed aware of the Spurs interest.

    What I want to know is whether he's interested in the Spurs interest? Meaning, if he does get traded here, however unlikely, will he be happy as a clam?
    I'm sure the Spurs have talked with his agent a few times already. As for his happiness being a Spur, that's a tough call. He wants to play and wants to start. Whether he'd be happy not starting is another issue. He's also not much of a defensive player and has chaffed with disciplinarian coaches like Coach K and now Dunleavy. So the jury's out.

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    I'm sure the Spurs have talked with his agent a few times already. As for his happiness being a Spur, that's a tough call. He wants to play and wants to start. Whether he'd be happy not starting is another issue. He's also not much of a defensive player and has chaffed with disciplinarian coaches like Coach K and now Dunleavy. So the jury's out.
    I'm not sure he wouldn't start, especially in the playoffs. I think Pop has been pleased with Manu's bench play....just not as thrilled about the starters who replaced him.

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    OMG, the thread got even better!

    I remember that one buyout where the team hated the player so much they paid him more to stop playing for them.

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    I'm not sure he wouldn't start, especially in the playoffs. I think Pop has been pleased with Manu's bench play....just not as thrilled about the starters who replaced him.
    Well, two moves Pop has made makes it look almost like they're making room for Maggette: 1) moving Manu to the bench; and 2) taking Udrih out of the rotation to trade him.

    However, by accounts Maggette blows not only at man-to-man defense but also at rotations. He's a true blockhead when it comes to rotations, which is tantamount to murdering Pop's dog... on a daily basis.

    That's why I don't think the Spurs do it. I think they seriously considered it, came somewhat close, but now are over the Maggette saga.

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    Well, two moves Pop has made makes it look almost like they're making room for Maggette: 1) moving Manu to the bench; and 2) taking Udrih out of the rotation.

    However, by accounts Maggette blows not only at man-to-man defense but also at rotations. He's a true blockhead when it comes to rotations, which is tantamount to murdering Pop's dog... on a daily basis.

    That's why I don't think the Spurs do it. I think they seriously considered it, came somewhat close, but now are over the Maggette saga.
    You forgot to mention the player he moved into the starting rotation....Barry, who was a key player mentioned in the initial talks and where any discussion with the Clips would begin I'm sure.

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    Maggette would probably start if the Manu move is permanent (I hope it is - its working brililantly) but I doubt the move was made in any way shape or form due to anything about Magette. The chances of seeing a trade with the Clips go down are under 1% at this time. If I'm the clips - and Donald Sterling has made it very clear this is how he feels - an upset Magette is far better for my team than Ben/Barry or whatever else the Spurs have to offer.

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    Anyone who has seen the Spurs over the last few years should know the Manu move has nothing to do with Magette.

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    Then again anyone who's seen the Spurs over the past few years should probably also understand how buyouts work.

    Maybe I'll lower the bar.

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    Then again anyone who's seen the Spurs over the past few years should probably also understand how buyouts work.

    Maybe I'll lower the bar.
    Sheridan did not mean 'buyout' the way it was pounced on literally in the thread. I believe he meant a waiver as likely too. Anyway, BFD.

    Did I forgive you your almost upsettingly obtuse notion that Maggette could start as the Spurs' point guard? With peals of laughter, yes I did. I'd go track it down and post it as my signature, but I honestly don't care what trifling mistakes people make on this board.

    Read the post about the Manu lineup shift again, Papi. Unnerstand 'almost'?

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    Maggette would probably start if the Manu move is permanent (I hope it is - its working brililantly) but I doubt the move was made in any way shape or form due to anything about Magette. The chances of seeing a trade with the Clips go down are under 1% at this time. If I'm the clips - and Donald Sterling has made it very clear this is how he feels - an upset Magette is far better for my team than Ben/Barry or whatever else the Spurs have to offer.
    At least two more years of Maggette being pissed off!?! I doubt the Clips can take it that long, and as bad as his trade value is right now, it could get alot lower the longer things drag out.

    Granted, I think there are potential deals out there greater than what the Spurs could offer, but I DO think Maggette is on another squad by 22 Feb.

    Oh and the Clips could do alot worse than a top-10 3pt shooter who's $6M salary comes off the books a year earlier than Maggs (we all know Sterling's penny-pinching ways).

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    I'd love for you to find a post where I said Magette would start as the Spurs PG. Thats a ridiculous notion. So go ahead. Find it.

    Sheridan meant buyout the way it is used everytime it is said, dumbass. If he meant he was going to be waived, he would have said as much. He said buyout because he meant buyout. WTF makes you think someone would use one word in place of a another when they have totally different meanings?

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    I said last June that Williams would eventually be bought out. We'll see in 2 weeks.

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    He said buyout because he meant buyout. WTF makes you think someone would use one word in place of a another when they have totally different meanings?
    Their meanings are hardly 'totally different'. This discussion is pointless. Eric Williams is at the end of his career, most likely, and he will not be a Spur by the end of the season. I honestly don't care how it happens or the blatherings of internet morons.

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    Tyson (Portland, OR): I keep hearing locally that the Blazers may just buy out Jamal Magloire and let him get picked up on waivers if there are no attactive trades for him. Thoughts?

    Chris Sheridan: Well, the market for expiring contracts has really changed in the past year, and if the Blazers can't get anything for him, they and he would be better off with a buyout. So, yes, I could see that happening. I heard Eric Williams is a buyout candidate in San Antonio, too.
    Maybe the Blazers will just waive Magloire. Don't want to mess with that complicated buyout stuff.

    Seriously though, if Maglore is a free agent, I wouldn't mind the Spurs picking him up. Could he be worse than Oberto?

    I said last June that Williams would eventually be bought out.
    Way to go far, far out on a limb.

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    Maybe the Blazers will just waive Magloire. Don't want to mess with that complicated buyout stuff.

    Seriously though, if Maglore is a free agent, I wouldn't mind the Spurs picking him up. Could he be worse than Oberto?
    Averaging 5 and 5 in 18mpg, so on the surface it seems like a wash with both. He seems to have really regressed since his all-star season.

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    The discussion is pointless because you're the only idiot around here who can't seem to recognize the complete difference between a BO and simply being waived.

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    Averaging 5 and 5 in 18mpg, so on the surface it seems like a wash with both. He seems to have really regressed since his all-star season.
    Magloire can block shots, which is always a plus in the Spurs' system.

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    he thinks the Spurs are still a possibility
    Interesting.
    Maggette's deal isn't as dead as it seems.

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    Magloire can block shots, which is always a plus in the Spurs' system.
    Isn't he one of the slowest bigs in the league? I thought (besides his prohibitive contract) that was one of the reasons the Spurs got rid of Rasho. Although, unlike Rasho, Magloire does dunk the ball....albiet with his eyes closed...

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    Maggette would help the rotation out a lot, but this team needs another big.

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    Magloire will be quite useless against Mavs and Suns but usefull against Houston.

    Spurs haven't a player bigger than 6'10" and heavier than 250 lbs outside Duncan : it can hurt them in certain matchups (as soon as tonight against Howard). Spurs bigs must be versatile enough to defend on Yao and on Dirk.

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