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    It's too hard for me to call at this point. I like Rampage's chances but Chuck has some serious momentum going.

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    I just think that Chuck is going to go all out to avenge that embarrassing loss, especially because the UFC is his house, he wont want to let all the fans down. Rampage is a beast, and he manhandled CHuck that last fight, but since that fight the 2 fighters have taken completely different paths, with Chuck looking better and better, and Rampage looking decent sometimes, and then horrible others. I wonder if his heart is in it sometimes

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    I think you're on the same page as me. Rampage dominated their first match but Chuck has been extremely dominant since the loss. Rampage has fought some of the best out there (Silva twice, Shogun, Arona, Linland) and dropped a few matches in the process. I just don't know.

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    I just think that Chuck is going to go all out to avenge that embarrassing loss, especially because the UFC is his house, he wont want to let all the fans down. Rampage is a beast, and he manhandled CHuck that last fight, but since that fight the 2 fighters have taken completely different paths, with Chuck looking better and better, and Rampage looking decent sometimes, and then horrible others. I wonder if his heart is in it sometimes
    After beating Chuck, Rampage turned around and lost twice to Silva and once to Shogun. These things are so unpredictable with two good fighters. Somebody could get a lucky shot. I would still like to see Silva vs Liddell.

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    After beating Chuck, Rampage turned around and lost twice to Silva and once to Shogun. These things are so unpredictable with two good fighters. Somebody could get a lucky shot. I would still like to see Silva vs Liddell.
    And Chuck went out and won 7 straight against top competion as well, Ortiz twice, Couture twice, so it says a lot to me that Chuck rebouned the way he did after a loss, and Rampage regressed after a win. And Rampage didnt look completely dominate his last fight either

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    I think you're on the same page as me. Rampage dominated their first match but Chuck has been extremely dominant since the loss. Rampage has fought some of the best out there (Silva twice, Shogun, Arona, Linland) and dropped a few matches in the process. I just don't know.
    Chuck looked baby faced in that fight. He wasnt as experienced as he is now. And hes alot better fighter now.

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    I think it's a coin flip...if I was laying money with odds I'd go with the underdog Rampage...

    I just think that Chuck is going to go all out to avenge that embarrassing loss, especially because the UFC is his house, he wont want to let all the fans down. Rampage is a beast, and he manhandled CHuck that last fight, but since that fight the 2 fighters have taken completely different paths, with Chuck looking better and better, and Rampage looking decent sometimes, and then horrible others. I wonder if his heart is in it sometimes
    Chuck hasn't fought a striker since Rampage...do we REALLY know if he's improved? How good is o really?? Don't know. Babalu?? Lambert destroyed him. Randy beating Tim makes Chuck look a little better, but Randy was screwed up with his divorce, etc during those last 2 fights with Chuck leading up to his retirement. Who knows how "into it" he was. Vernon White? MW Horn?

    And Chuck went out and won 7 straight against top competion as well, Ortiz twice, Couture twice, so it says a lot to me that Chuck rebouned the way he did after a loss, and Rampage regressed after a win. And Rampage didnt look completely dominate his last fight either
    I don't think we can just look at wins/losses after their fight to determine how they've responded. How do we know Rampage regressed? Losing to Silva twice and Shogun? I think he just stepped up a tier and got his ass kicked 3 times. Has that ruined Rampage? Don't know. How would Chuck have done in those fights? Could've been the same result...who knows. There are way too many factors to try to draw too many conclusions and use MMAmath (several years, age, mental state at the time, injuries, etc). Just have to see what happens. I won't be surprised by the result either way...unless Chuck submits Rampage or something

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    There are way too many factors to try to draw too many conclusions and use MMAmath (several years, age, mental state at the time, injuries, etc).

    There are alot of factors, but you can always have a prediction based on past performances. I agree with mardigan's thinking here. Sure you can disagree and spin it whatever you want with who faced who, striker or not, who was getting a divorce at the time of a fight, etc., but there is nothing wrong with looking at the performances of Chuck and Rampage since the two 1st met and basing your prediction on that. I think that is one of the more obvious and credible aspects to look at when making a prediction.

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    Are you guys watching this IFL right now? I have never seen so many quick submissions

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    There are alot of factors, but you can always have a prediction based on past performances. I agree with mardigan's thinking here. Sure you can disagree and spin it whatever you want with who faced who, striker or not, who was getting a divorce at the time of a fight, etc., but there is nothing wrong with looking at the performances of Chuck and Rampage since the two 1st met and basing your prediction on that. I think that is one of the more obvious and credible aspects to look at when making a prediction.
    Fair enough...my prediction based on past performance is Rampage because he clearly outclassed Chuck a few years ago...

    I think it will be a much closer fight this time. Chuck has "home court" and is on a roll...but in the back of his mind he knows he was beaten down by Rampage already. Rampage has taken some brutal beatings since he beat Chuck, but he knows in the back of his mind that he already dominated Chuck once.

    I think it'll be a great matchup...fight of the year potential...

    Are you guys watching this IFL right now? I have never seen so many quick submissions
    I watched most of it last night...I had seen most of those fights on FSN previously. They'll eventually get up to some more current fights, and the eventual goal is to show some live fights...

    Last night's episode was MUCH better than the hype preview with all of the BS. At least they cleaned that up...

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    sure chuck may have beaten some of these guys that are not le contenders or not as good as rampage but its not as if chuck has had trouble with any of them

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    Are we ever going to get an MMA forum?

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    Good question dallaskd.

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    Are we ever going to get an MMA forum?
    If Tim Duncan requested one we'd get it

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    Oh llllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shogun signed to fight twice in the UFC???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=534342

    I hope this is true...

    Babalu for revenge factor, then Chuck...if he beats Rampage...or maybe even if he doesn't

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