Giuliani is a JOKE!

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You call him a liberal because he happens not share a wacky religious cult's obsession with procreation, but he that hardly qualifies him to represent any tradition of liberalism - economic or philosophical, including the brand of leftist politics Americans use the term to describe.

"Fascism" is a loaded term in many parts of the English-speaking world, and in the US in particular it's been wrongly coopted by hippies and rednecks alike to describe virtually any kind of government activity, but Rudy is a fascist in the most original and anti-liberal sense, regardless of how much some gestures you see as extravagantly tolerant shine in your eyes.

Sometimes you need a little fascism, one could argue that the Civil War was fascist.....besides, Guilianni won't have total authority. He'll be pitted against a moderarte or perhaps liberal congress.

The end result is...well kind of a cluster , but a moderate one...and usually going in the right direction.

And I know you won't agree with that...but you'll have little to back up your point, while I'll have economic and military power not to mention a bill of rights that in actuallity of trickling down to the population, shines far and above that any in any other country, to back up mine.


You completely miss the genius of the American political system...

IT's the ability to change, and adjust, on the fly, based on political and world climate, peacefull, and without having to completely reorganize our government.


Left and Right, conserative and liberal...those aren't right and wrong concepts...merely direction.

Is East West wrong?

Depends on the direction you want to go.


No one, who thinks going one way or the other 100% of the time is a good idea...is sensible IMO.

I was talking about our People's Action Party in Singapore, which despite being quite liberal economically by American standards, and certainly far more racially progressive than Giuliani ever was, is nonetheless authoritarian (and we criminalize sexuality, too, which probably puts us out of the running for "the good ways").

Um...

I love how you just sort of threw that in there...I love it for more reason than one.

Do some research on Guiliani's stances...obviously you haven't, and obviously not doing so doesn't dissuade you from forming an opinion on a candidate...


I know, I know...Republican = Bad

Democrat = Good

Typical biased, subjective and closeminded lefty.

[Nbadan]

Giuliani ran and hide on 911, while his multi-million dollar emergency center in Tower 7 collapsed to the ground. What's so heroic about that?

NEW YORK (AP) - Rudy Giuliani's White House aspirations are inescapably tied to Sept. 11, 2001 - for better and for worse.

While the former mayor of the nation's largest city was widely lionized for his post-9/11 leadership - "Churchillian" was one adjective, "America's mayor" was Oprah Winfrey's assessment - city firefighters and their families are renewing their attacks on him for his performance before and after the terrorist attack.

"If Rudolph Giuliani was running on anything but 9/11, I would not speak out," said Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son was among the 343 FDNY members killed in the terrorist attack. "If he ran on cleaning up Times Square, getting rid of squeegee men, lowering crime - that's indisputable.

"But when he runs on 9/11, I want the American people to know he was part of the problem."

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Giuliani was also criticized for locating the city's emergency center in 7 World Trade Center, a building that contained thousands of gallons of diesel fuel when it collapsed after the terrorist attack.

AP

God, Oprah is a corporate !, but you don't get to be a 911 hero just because you finally bothered to show up and get rid of all the evidence to the greatest crime in American history.

[Nbadan]

March 29, 2007 — In an interview with Barbara Walters, former New York City Mayor and presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani said that if elected president, he would have no problem allowing his wife Judith Giuliani to sit in on cabinet meetings, "If she wanted to. If they were relevant to something that she was interested in. I mean that would be something that I'd be very, very comfortable with," he said.

He also tells Walters that he welcomes his wife's involvement in policy decisions during the campaign "to the extent she wants to be…I couldn't have a better adviser." When asked if she will sit in on policy meetings, Judith said: "if asks me to, yes. And certainly in the areas of health care."

Although usually a very private person, Judith Giuliani has had her fair share of headlines, most recently surrounding the news that, like her husband, she has been married three times.

She recently confirmed her previously undisclosed marriage to Jeffrey Scott Ross, whom she married in 1974 when she was 19. The couple divorced in 1979. She said she wasn't trying to keep that first marriage hidden.

ABC News

"Judith, you're doin' a heckuva job"