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    @ ploto defending Nazr.

    If we were talking about impact NBA players, I might care if Pop didn't connect with them.

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    I know quite well how Pop yelled at Tony all the time, but his place as the starter and the minutes that went with it were never in doubt in the course of a season. I do not recall Pop yanking Tony or Manu 20 seconds into the third quarter of games like he did with Nazr after one defensive mistake. It didn't work with Nazr and it hasn't worked with Beno- quite obviously.
    tony's work ethic has never been questioned - beno and nazr's have been repeatedly.

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    Beno is the least of the Spurs problem at this point. Finding a center who can rebound is much more important. I figure Parker would probably get extended minutes in the playoffs, and Manu/Barry could back him up. I've lost all hope for Beno this season. Even when he was at his best, he has never shown an ability to come up in a playoff game... he can't even bring up the ball under full court pressure. What do you think Jason Terry/Harris will do to him?

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    I know quite well how Pop yelled at Tony all the time, but his place as the starter and the minutes that went with it were never in doubt in the course of a season. I do not recall Pop yanking Tony or Manu 20 seconds into the third quarter of games like he did with Nazr after one defensive mistake. It didn't work with Nazr and it hasn't worked with Beno- quite obviously.
    Pop did that all the time with Tony and Manu. Not sure where you were.

    As a matter of fact, he's done it to both Tony and Manu this season.

    And Tony never lost his starting job because he's like 1,000,000 times better than Beno. If Beno played halfway decently, he wouldn't lose his job either.

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    tony's work ethic has never been questioned - beno and nazr's have been repeatedly.
    That is not true-- no one ever questioned Nazr's work ethic-- only his basketball IQ.

    Please, list for me the games in which Pop has pulled either Manu or Tony 20 seconds into the third quarter- NEVER to be seen again that game.

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    That is not true-- no one ever questioned Nazr's work ethic-- only his basketball IQ.

    Please, list for me the games in which Pop has pulled either Manu or Tony 20 seconds into the third quarter- NEVER to be seen again that game.


    You are talking about a huge difference in talent level. You don't bench a guy like Manu or Tony in the 3rd quarter and never put them back in a game. You do bench a guy like Beno or Nazr - they are role players - Tony and Manu are a lot more than that.

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    Not an answer-- the claim was that Pop did it to Tony and Manu ALL the time. At least you admit that he didn't.

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    He has pulled starters a couple of minutes into a game. Nothing new.

    Beno should play better.

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    Please, list for me the games in which Pop has pulled either Manu or Tony 20 seconds into the third quarter- NEVER to be seen again that game.
    WTF? Where did you pull that qualifier out of? Pop oftentimes pulls his starters early in quarters or right after putting them in a game to prove a point. Nobody said he pulled out Tony or Manu and kept them out. They were and have always been too good.

    But if you want evidence of Pop pulling out a player and then never putting them back in, other than Beno and Nazr, look no further than your friend Rasho. After giving up four offensive rebounds to begin the second quarter, Rasho was pulled and benched for the rest of the game. Even though he started

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