Things are about to get dicey for Tim Hardaway

[AFBlue]

it is about time someone tells the gays where they belong
good job tim

You do realize he said there was "no place for them on this earth" and "no place for them in america" right? So you'd be okay with the mass slaughter of all sexuals? Because if they can't belong here, they either have to die or live on the moon.

[Flight3107]

You do realize he said there was "no place for them on this earth" and "no place for them in america" right? So you'd be okay with the mass slaughter of all sexuals? Because if they can't belong here, they either have to die or live on the moon.

Just send them all to France

[50 cent]

He should have probably kept his comments to himself but I agree with him 100%.

So what are you going to do when Dirk comes out of the closet?

[fitzgerald]

On a serious note, who else in the NBA is rumored to be gay? I heard Richard Jefferson, anyone else?

[Extra Stout]

What Tim said wasn't dumb nor does that make it wrong or incorrect. The manner in which he said it is what was in question. He is a man thats en led to his opinions and he was not forcing that belief onto anyone that was willing to hear it. He shared his opinion just as John shared his. The thing that people missinterpreted is that what Tim hates isnt John himself, but the lifestyle that John chose. An no this isnt something on the scale of race! This is simply a choice another human being made to be what he wants to be and that doesnt condemn Tim anymore or any less than John.

"I hate gay people." "I am phobic." What is there to misinterpret?

[50 cent]

On a serious note, who else in the NBA is rumored to be gay? I heard Richard Jefferson, anyone else?

Dirk Nowitski.

I live in Dallas and he is always with a male companion and never in any females. Just listen to the guy when he is being interviewed. He sounds gayer than a Richard Simmons workout video.

[nkdlunch]

here is proof:

[Xylus]

Hardaway certainly has a right to express his opinion, and it's good that he's honest about it openly.

But the opinion in question is hateful bigotry. phobia is not a good thing...it creates a tension between the gay and straight communities that doesn't need to exist, and Tim Hardaway is only adding to that tension.

He's not an idiot for expressing his belief, he's an idiot for believing it in the first place.

[ShoogarBear]

LMAO at all the Maverick fans supporting Hardaway.

Boy, are they headed for a moral dilemma.

[DarkReign]

Hes a grown man en led to his opinion. If he didnt go on his stupid tirade, this wouldnt be news.

But thats why hes a normal Joe, and not a politician.

[sandman]

Hes a grown man en led to his opinion. If he didnt go on his stupid tirade, this wouldnt be news.

But thats why hes a normal Joe, and not a politician.

True. Disagree with what he said, but respect his honesty.

I find it interesting that Ameache wants straight players who feel comfortable with it to come out and support the gay community. Because of Hardaway, the PC machine is going to go into overdrive and people in professional sports are going to feel compelled to have to say something in support of the gay community so as not to be generalized as phobic. That is going to make a lot of people uncomfortable, because they may not be phobic, but they also don't want to ride on the Grandmaster float during the Pride Parade. This whole situation is going to cause extreme reactions that will not be sincere, will not be long term, and will not benefit anyone.

[BradLohaus]

Dirk Nowitski is always with a male companion and never in any females.

That sounds like the definition of gay.

[johngateswhiteley]

Yes, I think he took it too far and made himself out to be an ignorant slug. He can have whatever opinion he wants, but to take to a level of "hate" and to say that his employer, who pays him to do a job would have to trade that gay player is just stupid. STFU Tim Hardaway. Is it so hard to just say that a gay teammate would make him a little uncomfortable but he would try his best to get thru it? It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

and people, such as yourself, are en led to their opinion...just as you expressed. frankly, i am kind of glad he said it, and by that i mean glad he was honest. the media is always searching for people that will tell the truth, yet when they get it they jump down the person's throat. well, you media, you get what you ask for.

and i could care less Tim Hardaway hates gay people, who cares. it doesn't really matter. but at the same time, people do have the right to jump down his throat with their own opinion. my problem is mainly with the media and their treatment of individuals in these type of cir stances.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

True. Disagree with what he said, but respect his honesty.

I find it interesting that Ameache wants straight players who feel comfortable with it to come out and support the gay community. Because of Hardaway, the PC machine is going to go into overdrive and people in professional sports are going to feel compelled to have to say something in support of the gay community so as not to be generalized as phobic. That is going to make a lot of people uncomfortable, because they may not be phobic, but they also don't want to ride on the Grandmaster float during the Pride Parade. This whole situation is going to cause extreme reactions that will not be sincere, will not be long term, and will not benefit anyone.

So honesty is always an respectable quality?

[ShoogarBear]

I'd rather someone be honest than say they support something while secretly working against it.

[Xylus]

I'd rather someone be honest than say they support something while secretly working against it.

But Hardaway's honesty will have no positive effect on this issue, and does more harm than if he were secretly wishing for all gays to die.

[Xylus]

it all boils down to, If you are pro-gay, then tell the world about it ! If you're anti- then nobody wants to hear about it.

No, it boils down to hatespeech being unacceptable these days. Hardaway's comments were just that.

[sandman]

So honesty is always an respectable quality?

Yes. One can take issue with the tactifulness or appropriateness of his honesty while respecting the fact that he is willing to be honest. If you are going to attack the man, attack his convictions, not his adherence to them. His honesty is not the issue in this matter.

[ShoogarBear]

But Hardaway's honesty will have no positive effect on this issue, and does more harm than if he were secretly wishing for all gays to die.

The backlash will eventually have a positive effect. And Hardaway now has no zero influence and credibility, not just on this issue, but on just about every other issue as well.

Contrast it to someone who feels the same way but keeps quiet about it, maintains a position of influence, and works behind the scenes to perpetuate discrimination. That's the guy who does real harm.

[Xylus]

Contrast it to someone who feels the same way but keeps quiet about it, maintains a position of influence, and works behind the scenes to perpetuate discrimination. That's the guy who does real harm.

Can we agree that Hardaway isn't that type of guy?

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Yes. One can take issue with the tactifulness or appropriateness of his honesty while respecting the fact that he is willing to be honest. If you are going to attack the man, attack his convictions, not his adherence to them. His honesty is not the issue in this matter.

Honesty in an issue when it involves the expression of prejudices. Did Michael Richards really need to come out and say what he did?

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Yes. One can take issue with the tactifulness or appropriateness of his honesty while respecting the fact that he is willing to be honest. If you are going to attack the man, attack his convictions, not his adherence to them. His honesty is not the issue in this matter.

attack his convictions, but not his adherence to them? So lets just attack the kkk's convictions but not their adherence to them?

What the are you saying?

[ShoogarBear]

Honesty in an issue when it involves the expression of prejudices. Did Michael Richards really need to come out and say what he did?

Yes, because otherwise I might have ended up at some point watching or supporting some project he was involved with. Now I know not to.

[sandman]

Honesty in an issue when it involves the expression of prejudices. Did Michael Richards really need to come out and say what he did?

Is your issue with Richards that he said it, or that he believed it? If your point is to keep people from verbally articulating their true self, then you have missed the root cause all together and are simply about censorship.

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Yes, because otherwise I might have ended up at some point watching or supporting some project he was involved with. Now I know not to.

Yea, but what was its effect on society? Not it's effect on his marketability...