Iran Suspends Uranium Program, Dan and Kofi Weep

[ChumpDumper]

Well gee....I could move out of the way of the train, or I could stand here and get killed by it...let's see, moving out of the way means I pissed my pants...so I guess it's better to get hit.

What are we doing about North Korea again?

Drip.

Drip.

You need Depends.

[ChumpDumper]

Ask the worlds liberals...like yourself, those in S Korea and those in Europe...they will be the reason.

you you coward. You are the one who wants to run away from Korea just to watch Kim kill everyone. You are pathetic.

[whottt]

You lost that debate a long time ago.

What an idiot...You mean the world lost that debate since the world thought Iraq had them.

And you think I care Iraq didn't have operational WMD? I celebrate the fact. Only an idiot views that as something to about. The only people who ever thought that was the relevant issue were liberals. And I remain unconvinced he didn't have them.

Accept it.Way to miss the point. This is about countries getting nukes after the original powers were established.

Since when? I don't recall you saying that in your original dumbass statement.

Yeah, we were overjoyed when India got nukes, dumbass.

Yeah we reacted to India developing them just like we did Iraq, Iran and North Korea.

You are too stupid to realize that A.It was a liberal administration that both let them develop them and then proceeded to and whine about it to this very day. and B.It's not the idea of India itself having nukes that bother us...it's the idea of an arms race in Asia that bothers us. If it was just a choice of India having them, not China or Pakistan, I imagine we would be quite comfortable with that idea.

You are one of the idiots that think there is no right and wrong just differing view points...that's a stupid ing philosophy. We don't want head countries getting them.

You're the one who just killed several million people in and around the Korean peninsula in one post dumbass.

Um, no the world did, specifically liberals in America, Europe and South Korea...with their trying to suck terrorist instead of rallying behind those that would confront them. And don't kill the messenger.

Just go shut up and suck it and please stop feeling qualified to have a political opinion or a right to vote.

[whottt]

you you coward. You are the one who wants to run away from Korea just to watch Kim kill everyone. You are pathetic.

Sometimes you got to crack a few eggs to make an omlete.

Besides, it'll make them shut the up about our troops being their and most importantely about Hamm's gold medal...and that is important .

If American and world liberals were't so busy trying to suck terrorist and politicizing necessary military action and using it as an excuse to attack the Bush and other sane administrations...we wouldn't have this problem. But as it is...liberals about any and everything, even when they cause it...It will take the support of many countries to act on North Korea...support that isn't there because of dumbass terrorist sucking liberals. So this is the alternative.. away...just remember you were the cause.

If it makes you feel any better I'd prefer to see far left liberals get wiped out instead of the South Koreans, unfortunately I don't have that choice. But if it did happen the World would be a better(and more peaceful place).

[ChumpDumper]

The only people who ever thought that was the relevant issue were liberals.

You can't rewrite history, try as you might.

I don't recall you saying that in your original dumbass statement.

Yes, I didn't judge the level of the room. I will allow for your complete lack of intellect in the future.

You are one of the idiots that think there is no right and wrong just differing view points.

Gee, where did I say that? For a guy who hangs on my every word, you're really taking liberties with that one. Dumbass.

Um, no the world did, specifically liberals in America

You stupid piece of , you can't even acknowledge you run the country. Oh, no -- liberals. Whatever shall we do? Who makes policy? Who controls the government? Who has controlled the government? Who is doing nothing about NK RIGHT NOW? Take some ing responsibility for once.

Just go shut up and suck it and please stop feeling qualified to have a political opinion or a right to vote.

You first. Dumbass.

[ChumpDumper]

Sometimes you got to crack a few eggs to make an omlete.

Thanks for admitting you have no regard for human life. Refreshing.

Spare us the tired rhetoric. You haven't shown one iota of knowledge about what's going on in NK, so save the straw man for someone who would fall for your distractions.

[whottt]

You can't rewrite history, try as you might.

Who is rewriting history? It's going to take multilateral action to go into North Korea...especially since they pose a nuclear threat...you should be jumping for joy...you and dumbasses like you wanted to be faced with this same scenario in Iraq and Bush denied you your nuclear confrontation and you haven't shut the up since.

Yes, I didn't judge the level of the room. I will allow for your complete lack of intellect in the future.

Damn that's a long excuse...why not just admit you are backtracking?

You lumped all nuclear powers together...an act of stupidity...and if you weren't doing that your stance on the issue is even stupider.

You stupid piece of , you can't even acknowledge you run the country.

And you can't acknowledge that Bush's foreign policy is having success in the middle east...all you can do is and whine.

Oh, no -- liberals. Whatever shall we do? Who makes policy? Who controls the government?

Conservatives all the way baby which is why you will see more progress made in the North Korea in the next 4 years than you have at any other time in the past 50 years.

Who is doing nothing about NK RIGHT NOW?

We are involved in multilateral talks with North Kores right now dumbass.

Take some ing responsibility for once.

LMAO that's funny coming from you.

[ChumpDumper]

you and dumbasses like you wanted to be faced with this same scenario in Iraq and Bush denied you your nuclear confrontation and you haven't shut the up since.

Nuclear? Why come back to that when you turned tail and ran from it earlier?

You lumped all nuclear powers together.

Nope. I can't help your stupidity.

And you can't acknowledge that Bush's foreign policy is having success in the middle east...

I was all for invading Afghanistan. The occupation of Iraq is a much less clear cut operation. Forgive me for having an opinion. I'll just wave a flag from now on when people die -- I've been told it makes everything better.

Conservatives all the way baby which is why you will see more progress made in the North Korea in the next 4 years than you have at any other time in the past 50 years.

I completely believe you see the deaths of millions in that area you predicted as progress. If you want to kill my in-laws that badly, be a man and shoot them yourself. Just change your shorts first.

We are involved in multilateral talks with North Kores right now dumbass.

No, dumbass. We are talking about multilateral talks right now. And Kim just stalls. And builds.

Drip.

Drip.

LMAO that's funny coming from you.

I don't want to kill your in-laws. Own it or backtrack. Right or wrong. Which is it?

[whottt]

Yawn, typical liberal hypcricy...you advocated a presidential candidate who played a role in the deaths of some 3 million Vietnamese and Cambodians. I didn't hear you guys complaining about that.

Then you try and act like the US is responsible for the security of Koreans, when in fact, we are not, and it's liberals like yourself that continually about us being the World's police. It's not our lot in life to defend other countries civillians for 50 ing years. If the Koreans die it will be because liberals like yourself allowed the North Koreans to take their country. It will be because we're sick of dumbass protestors thant whine and about every thing no matter how contradictory...so we're going to give them what they want.


I have had to sit here and watch US boys die for the better part of 2 years now while heads like yourself sit here on your ass and do nothing but upchuck cynicism and monday morning quarterback and erode their morale and minimize their reason for dying.

You think I'm not willing to watch some other countries civillians die for their own cause? It'll be a of a lot easier then watching those troops die.

[Drachen]

Sometimes you got to crack a few eggs to make an omlete.

Besides, it'll make them shut the up about our troops being their and most importantely about Hamm's gold medal...and that is important .

If American and world liberals were't so busy trying to suck terrorist and politicizing necessary military action and using it as an excuse to attack the Bush and other sane administrations...we wouldn't have this problem. But as it is...liberals about any and everything, even when they cause it...It will take the support of many countries to act on North Korea...support that isn't there because of dumbass terrorist sucking liberals. So this is the alternative.. away...just remember you were the cause.

If it makes you feel any better I'd prefer to see far left liberals get wiped out instead of the South Koreans, unfortunately I don't have that choice. But if it did happen the World would be a better(and more peaceful place).

I really think it has nothing to do with liberals on this one. I think the reason we couldnt rally enough support would be because the entire world would see it as a decision between the lesser of two evils, and unfortunately (due to recent foreign policy), we are not seen as "less evil enough" for them to make a move.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Are we still arguing about North Korea? That was covered a good several weeks ago.

China is trying to join the global economy. Any acting up by Kim Jong will be met with a swift kick in the ass from Beijing.

We cleverly let a news report leak last month that Clinton's WH had come up with a plan that would greet any aggressive military action by the North with a nuclear barrage that would pretty much make NK cease to exist.

They know this, Kim Jong knows this, and China has sure as made their opinions known.

Quit worrying about that other people have already taken care of.

[Drachen]

I thought containment didnt work???

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Not in every case, no. Some it does. Every situation requires a different response and strategy.

[Drachen]

Well it seems to have worked backwards then, due to the absence of WMD's in Iraq, and the Nuclear weapons in NK. Ill be honest with you, although I know Saddam is a bad man, if it came down to it, I think we have more to fear w/Kim Jong Il. He seems unstable, and has the missile capability to reach us.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well I guess I could point out the obvious that Clinton screwed up originally and let NK build their nuke program, but seeings your obvious liberal rants on this board you'll probably somehow blame W. for it.

You won't find WMD in Iraq because it's been moved, I think anyone with a reasonable mind and some ability to use logic can see that.

Saddam had WMD, he didn't destroy it, said it was all gone, so where'd it go?

Kim Jong Il isn't the most stable guy around (but he has nothing on Dan), but even with his warped mind he knows the moment he does something military his ass and that of all this countrymen is gone.

And if there's one thing he is more than unstable, it's an egomaniac. Don't think he'd like the idea of going down as responsible for the destruction of his country.

We're progressing rapidly on the SDI, that will address "missiles that can reach us", but really I think the worry about him is way overblown.

He knows the moment he does something, he's gonna get it from China, Russia, South Korea, the US, and probably even Japan would throw in. It'd be over. Quick.

[Drachen]

Well I guess I could point out the obvious that Clinton screwed up originally and let NK build their nuke program, but seeings your obvious liberal rants on this board you'll probably somehow blame W. for it.

You won't find WMD in Iraq because it's been moved, I think anyone with a reasonable mind and some ability to use logic can see that.

Saddam had WMD, he didn't destroy it, said it was all gone, so where'd it go?

Kim Jong Il isn't the most stable guy around (but he has nothing on Dan), but even with his warped mind he knows the moment he does something military his ass and that of all this countrymen is gone.

And if there's one thing he is more than unstable, it's an egomaniac. Don't think he'd like the idea of going down as responsible for the destruction of his country.

We're progressing rapidly on the SDI, that will address "missiles that can reach us", but really I think the worry about him is way overblown.

He knows the moment he does something, he's gonna get it from China, Russia, South Korea, the US, and probably even Japan would throw in. It'd be over. Quick.

Please show me a rant... Yes my views are to the left, just as yours are to the right, but I have not once gone into a rant, I have not once lowered myself to personal attacks, the one statement that is further left than the rest of my posts would be about the fact that the ANWR is probably about to be drilled.

I think he doesnt care one Iota for his country. You are right about the egomaniac thing though, which is one of the main things that scares me, he wants to be able to play with the big boys and will do what it takes to prove he can.

[ChumpDumper]

Then you try and act like the US is responsible for the security of Koreans

Then why are we there?

It's not our lot in life to defend other countries civillians for 50 ing years.

Then why are we there?

It will be because we're sick of dumbass protestors thant whine and about every thing no matter how contradictory...so we're going to give them what they want.

Then your a pussy who would rather listen to polls than your own convictions.

I have had to sit here

Yes, all you do is sit. I respect you more if you put your money where your mouth is.

You think I'm not willing to watch some other countries civillians die for their own cause? It'll be a of a lot easier then watching those troops die.

You have no respect for life at all. My family is not eggs for your omlette, you piece of .

[Hook Dem]

Chump....question! You don't have to reply to me and you can jump on me for asking the question, or you can answer. I have watched all of this with great interest without replying or "jumping in" but my curiosity has gotten the better of me. I mean no disrespect when I ask this. Without too many details, what do you do for a living? Just curious!

[ChumpDumper]

If you guess correctly, I'll tell you.

[Hook Dem]

If you guess correctly, I'll tell you.

I'm not that curious Chump. It was a legitimate question with no attachments. FYI...I'm retired from SWB Telco. I have nothing to be concerned about in revealing that.

[Yonivore]

If you guess correctly, I'll tell you.

Hooker?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Drachen,

He may not care about his country, but I think you're wrong on that one. Without people to worship him, he's nothing, and he knows it.

I'm sorry you feel the way you do about Alaska. The sooner we can become self-sufficient in the energy market, the sooner we can make a lot of policy changes WRT the Mideast that will largely settle the problems the Muslim world, led by Osama, have with us.

[whottt]

Then why are we there?Then why are we there?

Doesn't matter why we were there...this is one of those leaps of stupidity you make often...it doesn't matter why we were there...we're leaving now.

Then your a pussy who would rather listen to polls than your own convictions.Yes, all you do is sit.

Um my own convictions tell me we should pull out of South Korea. We could use the troops elsewhere...and the French and Germans can defend South Korea for a while. You know who the French are...you lick their asses daily on this forum. Get them to defend your family.

I respect you more if you put your money where your mouth is.

And I'd respect you more if you'd get the out of country you live in yet criticize like it is your own personal ...and go defend your family in South Korea yourself, rather than advocating US boys continue to do it.

Thankless whining turds like yourself are exactly why I advocate we pull out. What is the point? To protect idiots?

And I tried.

You have no respect for life at all. My family is not eggs for your omlette, you piece of .

No, you have no respect for life at all...we have propped up the South Korean economy and defended it's hostile borders for 50 ing years. They have had plenty of time to learn how to walk on their own two feet. You who support ty countries against the US like France...like the colossal stupid you are...are ungrateful for this...you have no problems with Saddam massacring Iraqis, yet let us move our military out of Korea for the first time in 50 years because other countries, that you love and defend daily on this forum, refused to help us in Iraq..and you whine like a yet again.

They've done exactly for us...and you, who have family that have benefitted from the US Government and it's military for a half century, are a thankless turd who holds the US responsible for the actions of North Koreans and South Koreas own inability to defend itselt. You seem to think we owe people something...we don't. We are owed.


There, I said it, now what you gonna do? Badmouth the US, defend it's enemies, and spew negativity? Too late, you already do it. Get your ass to Korea and defend your own ing family, mouth.

[ChumpDumper]

Doesn't matter why we were there.

Sure it does, you just can't say it, since it proves you are wrong. Again.

Um my own convictions tell me we should pull out of South Korea. We could use the troops elsewhere.

Where? Are we protecting other people in those places? How is that different?

And I'd respect you more if you'd get the out of country you live in yet criticize like it is your own personal .

I know you can't stand anyone thinking this country can do something wrong, but it has and will. This nation was not built by yes men and cheerleaders.

You know who the French are...you lick their asses daily on this forum.

When? Link?

Thankless whining turds like yourself are exactly why I advocate we pull out.

So you just want to run away when your feewings are hurt. Aww, poor guy. Turns out you ARE all talk.

And I tried.

Tried what? To imprison anyone who disagreed with you? Deport them?

No, you have no respect for life at all...we have propped up the South Korean economy and defended it's hostile borders for 50 ing years. They have had plenty of time to learn how to walk on their own two feet.

What does that have to do with respect for life? You want my family dead. What kind of ing monster are you? Your rant about my "loving" countries I have no love for doesn't change the fact that you want millions of Asians to die because you feel disrepected by a couple of people in the news who have hurt your widdle feewings. Saddam and Kim would be very proud of you.

Your complete willingness to give up American lives to stop Saddam from -- well we have no idea what he was actually doing that would threaten the US -- doesn't jibe with your bloodlust wanting Kim to kill everyone in South Korea and a large part of Asia. In your world of good and evil absolutes, wouldn't that be evil? You want evil to win in Korea. Congratulations -- you're evil, you Kim-loving piece of . You want good people to die because of some perceived insult? Pathetic.

There, I said it, now what you gonna do?

I won't say I want your family dead, that's for sure. Because I'm not evil.

Get your ass to Korea and defend your own ing family

If it comes to that, I will do what I have to to make them safe from those who would have them killed like you.

[whottt]

Sorry but if you think it's America's job to defend Korea, you are a pompous ass...and if you think our failure to do so after 50 ing years, makes us murderers, you are a dumbass to boot. It's not our job to defend Korea...it's theirs. We've got other going on and it's time for Korea to carry their own weight. Enough Americans have died for Korea only to be paid back by thankless assholes such as yourself labeling them murders because they are going to stop doing the Korean governments job.

off and stay ed off... .