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  1. #51
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    So the Suns will magically learn how to play defense once the playoffs roll around? Sounds like you're the one who's dreaming
    uh-oh........*cue in RonMexico*



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    yes we do, but it's nice to play at home, especially considering that the mavs have lost all of three games at home. anyway, be sure to tune in to our games, you'll learn something about how to win without starters in the lineup

    Oh, by the way, I don't think the Mavs could have survived last year without Dirk like we did without Amare. Just goes to show you the heart the Suns have and how important Nash is.

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    LOL yeah. I can't wait to see every stat available that proves that the Suns don't play bad defense.

    I've seen it all before...mainly because I used those same stats three years ago to prove that the Mav's D wasn't "that bad". It was BS back then and it's BS now.

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    uh-oh........*cue in RonMexico*



    Is this all you can come up with?

  5. #55
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    You hope! If it was Dirk out and one of your regular frontline guys out I think you would be singing another tune.
    not really, we can change it up a bit for a couple of games against teams like the hawks (suns did lose to the hawks, right?)

    anyway, when nash was out, suns had a perfect opportunity to change it up a bit, slow down the game, take it to the hole, which would've benefited amare, maybe try out jalen, none of this happened which leades me to believe that they can't tweak their game and change it based on the opposing team's play

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    Is this all you can come up with?
    i'm down with RonMexico, it's just a joke directed at him and i'd think he would smile cuz he knows i like to talk smack...anyway, at least he makes arguments, you just throw little emoticons at us.

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    Oh, by the way, I don't think the Mavs could have survived last year without Dirk like we did without Amare. Just goes to show you the heart the Suns have and how important Nash is.
    Well losing Amare for the Suns is more like lost Howard for the Mavs. A serious blow, but their most important player was still on the court.

    There's no doubt that the Suns play their heart out, and that Nash is great. They just can't play defense. Maybe in a year or two they will.

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    Well losing Amare for the Suns is more like lost Howard for the Mavs. A serious blow, but their most important player was still on the court.

    There's no doubt that the Suns play their heart out, and that Nash is great. They just can't play defense. Maybe in a year or two they will.
    yes maybe, but they don't have two years, nash's back messes up and they're done...unless they can get something out of that hawks lottery pick

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    You rang? Best defense in the league... book it.

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    not really, we can change it up a bit for a couple of games against teams like the hawks (suns did lose to the hawks, right?)

    anyway, when nash was out, suns had a perfect opportunity to change it up a bit, slow down the game, take it to the hole, which would've benefited amare, maybe try out jalen, none of this happened which leades me to believe that they can't tweak their game and change it based on the opposing team's play

    Yes, we did lose to the Hawks without Nash and Kurt Thomas. Mavs lost to the Warriors did they not and this was with Dirk wasn't it? If you have not noticed, we do take it to the hole as evidenced by Amare's freethrows in the last game. We just do not have a second point guard that can run this team. Just like you don't have a backup for Dirk. If you are counting Croshere don't even go there. Without Dirk for very long you guy's are in trouble also. So get off your high horse.

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    In fact, Reggie Miller would take the Suns from #1 defense in the league to probably the greatest defensive team in the history of the game...

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    Well losing Amare for the Suns is more like lost Howard for the Mavs. A serious blow, but their most important player was still on the court.

    There's no doubt that the Suns play their heart out, and that Nash is great. They just can't play defense. Maybe in a year or two they will.

    If you are comparing Howard to Amare you are on drugs. Howard is not even in the same class as Amare!!

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    You rang? Best defense in the league... book it.

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    In fact, Reggie Miller would take the Suns from #1 defense in the league to probably the greatest defensive team in the history of the game...

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    Without Dirk for very long you guy's are in trouble also.
    There's no doubt the Mavs couldn't get very far without Dirk. But I guarantee you they'd be compe ive and could make it to the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed at least.

    Without Nash, the Suns were a 30-something win team. And they'll be right back there once he's gone.

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    Well losing Amare for the Suns is more like lost Howard for the Mavs. A serious blow, but their most important player was still on the court.

    There's no doubt that the Suns play their heart out, and that Nash is great. They just can't play defense. Maybe in a year or two they will.

    In reply to your last paragraph, they do play defense. If you look at the percentages we are not that far off from what you limit other teams field goal percentage to. I have watched Mav games and anyone can take it to the hole on your team also. Your team is not any better defensively as you like to point out so often.

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    If you are comparing Howard to Amare you are on drugs. Howard is not even in the same class as Amare!!
    And you're on drugs if you're comparing Amare to Dirk. Not even close. I was comparing the two in the sense that Amare is the second most important player on the team, just like Howard for the Mavs.

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    Yes, we did lose to the Hawks without Nash and Kurt Thomas. Mavs lost to the Warriors did they not and this was with Dirk wasn't it? If you have not noticed, we do take it to the hole as evidenced by Amare's freethrows in the last game. We just do not have a second point guard that can run this team. Just like you don't have a backup for Dirk. If you are counting Croshere don't even go there. Without Dirk for very long you guy's are in trouble also. So get off your high horse.
    you missed the whole point...i wouldn't be down on the suns during nash's absence IF they had at least tried to change things up a bit without nash

    a backup for dirk? croshere is a bit better than kvh, he could at least put together 34 points in one game to win a game for us and he's not lobbing up a bunch of crazy shots like he did earlier in the season...plus, he's a lot better rebounder than kch ever was...but george has been the real pickup this season

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    There's no doubt the Mavs couldn't get very far without Dirk. But I guarantee you they'd be compe ive and could make it to the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed at least.

    Without Nash, the Suns were a 30-something win team. And they'll be right back there once he's gone.

    I think you seriously underestimate the Suns organization. I also think we could make it to the playoffs also, both teams would not last long though.

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    This just in! Karl Malone and John Stockton sign with the Suns! Pippin signs with Spurs!

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    In reply to your last paragraph, they do play defense.
    I know they do. They just don't play it very well.

    Again, it's the same BS argument that used to be made 3 years ago in defense of the Mavs formerly pitiful D.

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    I think you seriously underestimate the Suns organization. I also think we could make it to the playoffs also, both teams would not last long though.
    you really think the suns would make it to the playoffs without nash?!?!?! am i reading this correctly?

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    And you're on drugs if you're comparing Amare to Dirk. Not even close. I was comparing the two in the sense that Amare is the second most important player on the team, just like Howard for the Mavs.

    I would take Amare over Dirk any day. Amare is more than a dunker, if you bothered to watch any of the Suns games. He has developed quite a nice jumpshot and can take people off the dribble. He is back and your team had trouble with him two years ago and he is a much more well rounded player than then.

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    I think you seriously underestimate the Suns organization. I also think we could make it to the playoffs also, both teams would not last long though.
    ok right, yeah, the Suns would be JUST FINE without Nash. They've proven it time and time again by getting their ass kicked when Nash is out. They prove it each time Nash comes out of the game and the other team immediately goes on a 9-0 run. They proved it with that blistering 29 win season the year before Nash came to Phoenix.

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    This just in! Karl Malone and John Stockton sign with the Suns! Pippin signs with Spurs!
    nooooo, i so wanted danny ainge to sign with the suns and malone to sign with the mavs so i could finally cheer one of those hateful elbows to the head malone likes to dish out!!! just kidding, i have never disliked a player as much as i dislike malone

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