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    Even if Bowen's shots not falling, look at how he did last night when ON Martin.

    martin scored the majority, or all of his points when someone else was guarding him.

    So this Bowen sucks arguement is horse to the max.
    Actually your right. Which pained me to say. The Kings kept getting switches on picks which allowed Martin to score off of other defenders...So, case in point, there really wasn't a reason for Bowen to be out on the floor.

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    Every time you say something about him, it get's locked or you're an idiot.

    Dude is overrated. The Spurs would be much better with a forward that could rebound, score and dunk in that position.

    One of the reason the Spurs are 10 games behind Dallas is because he can't stop any of the elite players anymore.

    Saying the Spurs need a long forward is just a cheap way of saying Bruce needs to go.

    WTF?
    Your a loser.

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    The thing that worries me about Bruce Bowen is his inability to run up and down the court with the high flying teams like the Mavs and Suns. Although defense is what the Spurs live and die by he wont be able to play defense with the Western conference elites

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    The thing that worries me about Bruce Bowen is his inability to run up and down the court with the high flying teams like the Mavs and Suns. Although defense is what the Spurs live and die by he wont be able to play defense with the Western conference elites
    have you been a spurs fan for more than 3 days?

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    The thing that worries me about Bruce Bowen is his inability to run up and down the court with the high flying teams like the Mavs and Suns. Although defense is what the Spurs live and die by he wont be able to play defense with the Western conference elites
    I totally disagree. Even at 35 years old, Bowen has more energy than most of his teammates. He's perpetual motion and he has no-nonsense work habits with tremendous discipline. Running up and down the court isn't a weakness yet and although Bruce isn't a high-flier, his feet never stop. If you can discipline yourself to focus on watching Bruce for a couple of minutes straight, you'll see for yourself.

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    Actually your right. Which pained me to say. The Kings kept getting switches on picks which allowed Martin to score off of other defenders...So, case in point, there really wasn't a reason for Bowen to be out on the floor
    Why does it pain you to say that.

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    He's never been a lockdown defender on guys like Kobe or Dirk or McGrady (nobody is). Kobe has had some pretty big games on him in the past. What Bruce does is make him work hard enough to get his 35 points that they don't have the legs to take over in the last 5 minutes.

    Sequ is right in that aspect. Bruce is overrated if he get labeled as a lockdown perimeter guy. There is no such thing.
    And K-State Spur is overrated if he get labeled as a lick-down rim-eater gay. There is no such thing.
    Or is there a really stupid sounding ring to absolute statements made absolutely, K-State (not a spur)

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    nope...

    you're a loser

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    Every time you say something about him, it get's locked or you're an idiot.

    Dude is overrated. The Spurs would be much better with a forward that could rebound, score and dunk in that position.

    One of the reason the Spurs are 10 games behind Dallas is because he can't stop any of the elite players anymore.

    Saying the Spurs need a long forward is just a cheap way of saying Bruce needs to go.

    WTF?

    Moron

    The sad thing is, you are a troll, and most don't even grasp that aspect.

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    bull ing .



    So this Bowen sucks arguement is horse to the max.
    No, you suck.

    Can you honestly look yourself in the mirror and say Bruce Bowen hasn't lost a step? Well, maybe. But...

    I think it's safe to say that when Tony, Manu, and TD are kicking it out to him for a 3, I cringe a little bit.

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    how many 3 pointers Bruce Bowen made game 2 West Semi-Finals Spurs vs Lakers in 2003?

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    Everytime you post something, it turns into a vulgarity fest between a bunch of losers. If this thread doesn't go wild again, it will stay open.
    nope...

    you're a loser
    Sequ's mission accomplished.

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    lets hear sequspur, he is rigth!

    finley should start instead of him, and play more of bowens minutes. manu should start too. that would be better for the spurs than the current scheme.

    this is a thread that im started some months ago about bowen....

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...0&page=1&pp=26

    this is a great analisys of wildbill2u

    TIMVP you obviously don't even look at all the things that go into these ratings on the site your wife and you picked as giving good comparison stats. Put your cursor on the headings and the items that go to make them up will pop up.

    Go back and look up what the Help value is (rebounds, TOs assists, steals, etc.). It has nothing to do with offense. Productivity adds the players points to the HV. Efficiency Rating adds everything up.

    It's not as easy to equate the value of a player based on a constantly changing interaction with other players as you seem to think the +/- figure indicates.

    But the individual player's Help Value, Productivity and Efficiency ratings per 48 minutes measures solely his personal contributions per 48 minutes. Bowen's individual stats are crummy.

    He plays good defense, but the game is changing to a more mobile and higher scoring game. Not many games nowadays have both teams in the 80s so a defensive player isn't as effective or easy to hide as he once was.

    "Holding" some player to 25 points while scoring 2 puts a of a lot of pressure on the other players to take up the slack. Give TD 25 points, TP 20 and Manu 20, and you've still only got a total of 65 points so thirty or more points have to come from somewhere. With Bowen getting 35 minutes it isn't getting done.

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    lets hear sequspur, he is rigth!

    finley should start instead of him, and play more of bowens minutes. manu should start too. that would be better for the spurs than the current scheme.

    this is a thread that im started some months ago about bowen....

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...0&page=1&pp=26

    this is a great analisys of wildbill2u
    Ha! Focus on the ballcarriers that are one on one with Bowen, they pass it off to someone else after a couple of dribbles.
    LOOK AT IT!
    That specific one-on-one moment when they get rattled.
    Including Kobe.
    You know the game, they'll pass off the ball almost every single time.
    Only if you don't see it happen well then, let's talk about something else.

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    Every time you say something about him, it get's locked or you're an idiot.

    Dude is overrated. The Spurs would be much better with a forward that could rebound, score and dunk in that position.

    One of the reason the Spurs are 10 games behind Dallas is because he can't stop any of the elite players anymore.

    Saying the Spurs need a long forward is just a cheap way of saying Bruce needs to go.

    WTF?

    Sign Pippen, cut Bruce, right?

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    I do agree that we need someone younger and more offensively-proficient, and that has to come by next season.

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    The spurs are getting below ave. rebounding from bruce bowen and minimal offense from him compared to the middle pack of sfs in the nba. That is a fact. The spurs would be better off with someone else.

    bruce bowen is a class guy but a fact is a fact

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    Sequ's bball knowledge is less than mine. And I started watching this sport four years ago.

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    Sequ's bball knowledge is less than mine. And I started watching this sport four years ago.
    bro... counter my take then instead of slappin your dumb ass drivel off the crack of my ass.

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    bro... counter my take then instead of slappin your dumb ass drivel off the crack of my ass.
    No need to do that.

    When Kori, Nikos, Solid D and others have already countered your take, you know your take is dumb.

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    Sequ, Bowen may be overrated in your book....not mine.....but he is still an intricate part of this year's team and teams past.

    Yes he has lost a step (maybe 2) but he still regarded as one of or the best on the defender currently in the league.

    I do agree with many who think we need to start looking for his successor. We had the a similar problem when finding a successor for Sean.

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    Bowen neutralized Vince Carter tonight. The only times Vince did much was when Bruce went to the bench and Finley was on him.

    It doesn't really matter so much that Bruce scores...particularly if his defense limits the opponent's best scorer. When your defense helps your team hold the opponent under 40 points in the 1st halves of most games lately, why complain about Bruce's jumper? When your defense helps lead the NBA in points differential at over +8 per game, why complain about points contribution from Bruce Bowen?

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    BTW, by the time the first quarter ended, VC had 2 points and 4 TOs. Bruce Bowen had 3 points. Vinsanity scored 8 points while Bruce Bowen was on the floor tonight.

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    notice sequ and all the haters are quiet.

    Shut down his butt buddy Vince Carter.


    Silence is golden...

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    Out in front...where Bruce should be.

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