What we learned is that if Nash didn't get hurt for 3 games before the all-star break, the race for first in the west would be much tighter
we also learned that Suns fans still cant go for one day without making excuses. we could make excuses that if we had Harris and George last night, we would have won, and its probably true too, but the fact is, we should have won anyways, and ed it up by choking and getting too conservative in the 4th quarter.
The Suns choked in the 4th quarter back in December, too, but your "Mavs Vision" made that one out to be a great Mavs performance instead of a Suns collapse... goes both ways, pal
i learned that fans will say regular season games don't mean one minute and then all over themselves the next because one team (not their team) beat another team (not their team) in a close game
What I've learned is that both teams can blow double digits leads against an excellent team.
What it's confirmed is that the Suns/Mavs are very evenly matched and have been since Nash left... the series is either tied or one game in the Mavs favor (including playoffs)
What we learned is that Devin Harris and Devean George would've been very nice to have in this game.
And Amare would have been nice to have last year.
actually, i never said it was a great Mavs performance, although it was far better than what the Suns did last night. anytime you hold the Suns under 100, thats pretty damn good. and the Suns didnt choke a huge lead in that game the way Dallas did. it was a wire-to-wire game, in which every time Phoenix made plays, Dallas made better plays.
Well, the Suns choked away a lead last night, then the Mavs did it... But a 7 point lead in a game you called "wire-to-wire" and then Boris Diaw fouls out and Bell/Barbosa make terrible decisions doesn't have to be a HUGE lead for it to be a collapse.
It was a lower-scoring affair, so the margins of leads can still be significant even if they're lower than last night.
thats the stupidest ing thing ive ever heard. you dont choke away a lead in the second quarter. its not considered a choke job if you give up a lead in the SECOND QUARTER. thats not considered choking PERIOD.
ah that explains the suns' success of two years ago
While Dirk is a solid rebounder, he cant defend worth a either.
I would take Dirk's defense over Amare's in a heartbeat. All Amare can do is get an occasional block because of his athleticism. But he is probably equally as clueless as Dirk used to be defensively. I can't count how often he s up on pick-and-roll defense, and how often his man is wide open for shots, and he just stands there and watches. He is out of position so often, its horrendous. Dirk may be a slightly lesser man defender than Amare, but at least Dirk will typically be where he needs to be defensively, unlike Amare who looks ing clueless.
completely different team... that's like saying the Mavs with Walker, Jamison, and Bradley were the same
ok, pal - thanks for playing... again...
It's getting close the playoffs, Mavs are proving why they're not clutch... again
And yeah, rolling with a 16 point lead when the ONLY thing you have to do is keep Erika Dampier off the boards... that's not Dirk-worthy, but it's still pretty weak.
you're not serious are you? the only significant difference is diaw instead of johnson....bell instead of richardson....the dynamic of the team is exactly the same...
the mavericks completely changed their philosophy since the walker/jamison year. dirk is basically the only guy left....howard was a rookie...
You're completely incorrect - the entire outlook of the team has changed. Diaw is a much better passer than Q-Rich and Bell is a better defender than either Johnson or Richardson.
You obviously don't understand the concept of team chemistry and personalities and how they can affect a team... which is why I always rip on Stack.
2005 Suns - run and gun, lots of threes, drives and assists by Nash, ferocious dunks from Amare, little to no defense.
2007 Suns - run and gun, lots of threes, drives and assists by Nash, ferocious dunks from Amare, little to no defense.
And the outlook has changed........how?
2007 - little to marginal defense... deeper bench... Kurt Thomas
what exactly does he do? Seems like ever Suns game I see, he checks into the game, the commentators say something along the lines of "The Suns are glad to have Thomas healthy, it gives them another big man", then he proceeds to do nothing of enough significance to have his name mentioned again until he checks out and sits back down on the bench.
He is to the Suns what Greg Buckner is to the Mavs....every Mavs game the same thing happens, except replace the words "another big man" with "another defensive stopper"
thats like if the Mavs were to make an excuse that we lost due to lack of depth because DJ Mbenga was hurt. Kurt Thomas is basically a non-factor, especially against teams like the Mavs and Spurs.
Wait for Kurt Thomas in the playoffs - word on the street is that they want to keep him healthy for the playoffs this year rather than risk another injury like that dumb elbow this year and stress fracture from last year.
Trust me, he played very well in the beginning of the season and he'll play a role.
Secondly, he's a very calming voice who helps Amare mature (slowly, of course) and he simply can provide minutes of rest for Stoudemire/Diaw, which is always beneficial (or when Amare picks up 2 fouls like last night).
what I learned from this game: Phoenix needed 2 OT's to win a game where dallas wasn't healthy and they got 40+ and 30+ nights from amare and nash.
I learned that jho is a dumbass and does stupid everytime a game is on the line (time outs and foul 3 pointers in the last 15 seconds of the game)
I learned that we can't continue to switch the pick 'n roll, else we'll get killed. when we fought through the screens and tightened our D, the suns scored 16 points in a quarter, when we didn't they scored 33 or 35.
I also learned that the National Media is more stupid that I thought they were. The suns are now apparently the favorites for the le and nash for mvp again (not like he wasn't before, but still) after a 2 point, 2-OT win in march, lmao.
I also learned that nash has another guy pretty good named Amare I think playing alongside him, whom everybody seems to think he's a role player or something and not a superstar, since everybody talks about nash but not about amare, who was the mvp of the game...
I'm more convinced (didn't learn this) that the suns can't play defense and rebound. The mavericks got 104 shots at the basket (despite so many uncharacteristic TO's) and Phoenix got only 88 and while they did shot 55% from the field, largely due to our 8+ TO quarters that gave them dunks on the other end, they showed they can't stop the mavericks with their defense (don't pretend those TO's were forced, they weren't).
The solars should be more concerned that they shot 55+ % and dallas shot only 45% and they only beat us by a basket. They won't be shooting any better, specially in a 7 game series than last night, yet our offense looked like crap in the 1st and 4th quarters and it wasn't exactly because of the solar's D...
I also learned that the refs are a bunch of es that can't call travel on nash when he lands with the ball after a jump or a foul when he pushes people off (see dirk at the end of the 1st half) or a foul when the dirty ass solars whacked devin across the neck and injured him for the rest of the game and possibly more games to come.
I also learned that Bill Walton is a bigger than I thought he was. When a team is 1-6 or w/e the solars are against DAl, SA, and Utah and they are playing against the best team in the league on the road, THEY need to win the game to know they can beat these teams, not Dallas. Dallas has nothing to prove, they've beaten them plenty this season and last as well. They've beaten utah and SA, the solars haven't...
I also learned that it's impossible for Walton to look beyond his love affair for "little stevie" as the calls him, lmao.
I also learned that the solars are very confident they will see the mavericks in the Playoffs, despite having to go through SA if the standings stay the way they are. And guess what, they won't go through them...
I also noticed that the Suns are STILL 3 games behind Dallas, unlike what everybody seems to think
As you can see, I learned many things. I'm a scholar, I'm a maestro at dissecting games. While PHX leaves this game overly confident that they will beat Dallas, Dallas played a pretty pathetic 1st and 4th quarters due to their own fault and they were still in it till the end... let's recap:
Phoenix won't shoot more than 55% a game, specially not in an entire series once we get our defense right. Avery said he'd use this game as an experiment to see the different type of defenses for nash and the pick 'n roll, and last night he said he took many positive things from the game, and it was obvious when he got the defense right and we shut the solars down..
Dallas can shoot a pretty bad percentage from the field and still beat the "best offense in the league" because they play defense and they rebound.
Dallas needs to take care of the ball and limit those unforced errors that they had specially in the 1st quarter. That gives the solars easy points and makes their shooting % higher than it is. Then the dumbass solar fans say the mavs don't play defense... lol
Rebounds and defense still win championships and the solars doesn't do either one great (see dampier getting 11 offensive boards!!)
San Antonio will beat 'em solars in the second round if denver doesn't do so in the 1st hahah.
Diaw can't guard dirk, they'll need to move marion to dirk and jho with a cool head, will rape diaw off the dribble.
Amare and Nash can't play a better game than they did. They were combined for 73 points on 62% shooting and 18 rebounds. Nash alone almost got a triple double and they still needed miraculous shots and fouls in the end to beat us in 2 ot
Dirk and jho were combined for 49 points on 38% shooting only and 25 rebounds... yet they were in it till the end.
Dirk won't shoot 40% from the field and 66 % from the FT line many times and
Jho won't play as ty as he did (shooting 36%) and HOPEFULLY he will stop doing his dumbass BS of fouling a 3 point shooter at the end of games, and fouling out.
I'm also not sure if the solar fans noticed that your dirty players injured devin and prompted him to miss virtually the entire game and devean george didn't play either. They're two of our top 6 players, devin's like our Barbosa and george our marion in defense, had they played we would have won that game make no mistake about it.
... anyways I'm just repeating myself. The mavs ain't worried about the solars. Let them solars enjoy this win and we'll see SA in the WCF again, like it's supposed to be.
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