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there's a very significant correlation between spurs' wins and bowen's shooting percentage. yet somehow, the spurs' bad play is all the centers' fault and small ball is the answer.
the "logic" of the pro-small ballers is pretty amazing.
Since when does saying Bowen may be near done not show respect for past contributions. I guess Robinson and Gervin should play forever too according to people with their panties in a knot.
There are two banners hanging in the at&t center due in no small part to Bowen. The Spurs would be last in the league in defense and bannerless if some of you crackheads were running this team.
you. You don't deserve to be a Spurs fan. Go follow the Bobcats you pieces of .
there's a very significant correlation between spurs' wins and bowen's shooting percentage. yet somehow, the spurs' bad play is all the centers' fault and small ball is the answer.
the "logic" of the pro-small ballers is pretty amazing.
That is exactly what I am saying. Bowen is in no way a 30 minute player in this league no more. He should be used only in matchups.
By the way....
For all those homers out there (including me), lets all act like we didn't see REDD killing Bowen all night!
I really believe that since Bowen has this reputation (well earned) of being top or if not the best perimeter defender, guys bring there A+ game at him every night and Bowen's age is really starting to show. Sometimes it is better to just a throw regular defender like a "Maggette" at a Redd. Then they don't come into the game knowing the media and everybody is watching to see if Bowen is going to shut him down..
Bowen is not the reason Spurs are losing. He may be a small part of it...but Elson/Oberto and their soft-ass game, Finley/Barry and their sorry-ass shooting, and Pop's crappy rotations/stubborness not to play Bonner/Butler/Ely are as much to blame...
Then the season's over because this team isn't going to win a le based on outrunning the Mavs or Suns. Figure it out.
spurs won't win playing 5 on 5 either if their big men can't rebound for , and their supposed 3 point shooters keep firing up bricks
Thats messed up dog. I wasnt to happy about his play either but i wouldnt go as far as too say he sucks. looking back it wouldve been nice if he hit those open shots but other players also missed open shots.
There are two banners hanging in the at&t center due in no small part to Bowen. The Spurs would be last in the league in defense and bannerless if some of you crackheads were running this team.
you. You don't deserve to be a Spurs fan. Go follow the Bobcats you pieces of .
You dont deserve to be a Spurs fan is bull wtf is that about. they're complaining probably cuz they love or care a lot.
Heres 2 bruce scoring 30 next game
I'm not trying to be snarky and I'm not a fan of smallball either, but could you please produce this correlation?
I'm not even a spur fan and I cringe when he gets the ball. The guy is one of the biggest offensive liabilities i've ever seen. At least before he had one spot he could shoot from, the corner, but now he can't even do that. And you better hope to God he doesn't try to put it on the floor because that'll be an automatic turnover.
For the first few months of THIS season, Bowen was one of the best 3 point shooters in the league. Since January, I understand he has sucked, but I don't think your shot just permanently goes dead in that small time frame.
People act like he's never going to regain his shooting touch again.
I agree that I don't want to see him as a primary ball handler like we did on occassion yesterday. But I think to assume that his 3 point shot will never return when he was on fire in November/December - just four months ago - is crazy.
This argument fits right into the Bowen is overrated topic.
Dude, I can't even watch a Spurs game anymore... They won 13 straight against sorry ass teams and then drop 2 games to Eastern lottery teams.
I didn't see either game.
Just by looking at the Stats, Bowen is virtually useless. Oh and I did see Pierce's balls rubbing his face dropping the dagger on ESPN this morning...
Pitiful.
I think if we have an early exit in the PO's again the roster will be completely retooled with only a few players from this years roster (excluding the big 3). Lets hope the FO doesn't mess it up too bad.
He did miss wide open three when the Spurs played the Mavs that may have sent it into OT.(There were 4 seconds left)
Imagine if Manu took Bruce aside and convinced him to JOIN him on the bench. What a bench, 2 sharp defensive players loaded with game knowledge making the opposition change their game whenever Pop places them into the game.
Bowen isn't a pure shooter and will never be a pure shooter. For Bowen to be succesfull he needs to be a confident shooter who is able to find comfortable positions on the floor from which to do his thing.
Thats the main problem. He's not in the least comfortable, and he hasn't been comfortable in months. Why would anyone expect him to recover that comfort?
Bowen is not the kind of shooter that can simply keep firing and get out of a slump. Bowen is the kind of shooter who will do great when in a comfort zone, and horribly when out of it. You can see it in everything he does on the offensive side of the court. He can't handle the ball very well, he's horrible on breaks, and now he's not even hitting the outside jumper.
Bruce brings very specific talents to this team, and I'm not saying his defense has fallen off. But the fact is that NBA basketball is a game where specialists aren't intergral parts of a rotation and instead are spot minute players. If you leave such a void in the game that your contributions on one side of the court are completely negated by your deficiencies on another side, then you shouldn't be given a large amount of time.
Bowen may be at the point where his deficencies detract more than he adds with his defense.
...or maybe his back problems are worse than advertised?
This argument fits right into the Bowen is overrated topic.
Dude, I can't even watch a Spurs game anymore... They won 13 straight against sorry ass teams and then drop 2 games to Eastern lottery teams.
I didn't see either game.
Just by looking at the Stats, Bowen is virtually useless. Oh and I did see Pierce's balls rubbing his face dropping the dagger on ESPN this morning...
Pitiful.
I don't know why newcomers are bothered by Sequ's posts. He speaks the truth in most of his posts!
Bingo! It's been that way for awhile, not just this year. The Spurs would be better off with someone who could drop a few buckets and get some got damn rebounds. Bowen is useless in both departments...
Also one of the reasons why Parker doesn't get assists...
Replace Bowen with Bonner in the starting line-up. So what if Bowen holds someone to 24 who might get 30 against someone else, if he gives up 5 OR, misses key shots, can't make a lay-up and stops the offense every time he gets the ball. Bonner will need help on D for sure, but he will hustle his ass off, hit the boards hard, make his shots and will bounce a few bodies around.
Bonner...
Yep, sad when I would find myself hoping for the Red Rocket to come on the floor in place of Bowen. But, that is where we are.Bonner...
i haven't compared the stats for the year, that would take too long. but these are the stats from the january wins/losses i posted a while back: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...31#post1434431
Bowen FGM/FGA in January wins
4/7
5/6
3/5
3/8
2/4
4/7
3/7
2/8
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26/52 (50%)
(6.5 shots/gm)
Bowen FGM/FGA in January losses
0/6
0/6
2/6
4/10
2/9
1/5
2/6
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11/39 (28%)
(5.6 shots/gm)
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